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re: SEC refs have no idea WTF theyre doing
Posted on 9/7/10 at 6:45 pm to tigerfan7806
Posted on 9/7/10 at 6:45 pm to tigerfan7806
Nope, they were yugoslavian...
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 6:50 pm to MastrShake
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how bad is this gonna get?
bad
Posted on 9/7/10 at 6:51 pm to Drew Orleans
So no one knows if the breaking the goal plane rule would be in affect here?
Posted on 9/7/10 at 6:54 pm to Drew Orleans
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When the ball crosses the plane, even if his foot doesn't touch the line, doesn't that make it a touchback? Or is that the NFL?
Pretty sure that once the ball crosses the plane in college, it's a touchback. In the NFL, I believe it's the opposite...the player's feet have to be in the endzone while in contact with the ball for it to be a touchback.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 6:58 pm to medtiger
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It wasn't a touchback until the ball was downed. Once LSU batted the ball back into the field of play without touching it, UNC could have picked the ball up and run with it. So, the referees did the right thing by throwing the bean bag into the endzone (as they both did) and waiting for the ball to be downed.
well, maybe Im wrong then. in the screencap below, from the NCAA 2009 rules PDF, I read 6B to mean, the ball is dead when it breaks the plane.
LSU is the attacking team, they put it behind UNCs goal line, therefore the ball is dead.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 6:58 pm to RPC4LSU
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You are an idiot troll
And YOU are a blind homer. LSU won the game. WHY bitch about the refs????
Posted on 9/7/10 at 7:00 pm to MastrShake
It wouldn't have been lsu's ball even if it wasn't a touchback
Posted on 9/7/10 at 7:03 pm to MastrShake
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LSU is the attacking team, they put it behind UNCs goal line, therefore the ball is dead.
The rule states "It is a touchback when a kick becomes dead by rule...etc." The ball isn't dead in the endzone until it hits the ground.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 7:03 pm to MastrShake
FWIW I interpret it the same way you do shake 
Posted on 9/7/10 at 7:04 pm to dukke v
quote:Oh no, I am intimidated by the all caps response. How can I answer? You stupid POS. I am complaining about the refs because they consistently make BLATANT bad calls against LSU. You are a constant ref apologist that thinks they never make a mistake unless it is in LSU's favor.
And YOU are a blind homer. LSU won the game. WHY bitch about the refs????
Posted on 9/7/10 at 7:04 pm to TigerBait1127
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It wouldn't have been lsu's ball even if it wasn't a touchback
This is the way I interpret it as well. However, if a UNC player possessed the ball (picked it up and ran with it), then fumbled it, and LSU recovered; would the ball have been LSU's then?
Posted on 9/7/10 at 7:07 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:he signaled LSU ball because a UNC player made contact with the ball
It wouldn't have been lsu's ball even if it wasn't a touchback
Posted on 9/7/10 at 7:11 pm to RPC4LSU
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How can I answer? You stupid POS
Answer with this
quote:
I am complaining about the refs because they consistently make BLATANT bad calls against LSU
AND THIS
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You are a constant ref apologist that thinks they never make a mistake unless it is in LSU's favor.
This is bullshite. I am tired of people thinking that EVERY game LSU losses its the refs fault. And now LSU wins a game and people still bitch about the refs.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 7:17 pm to RPC4LSU
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I am complaining about the refs because they consistently make BLATANT bad calls against LSU.
I hear you, but LSU isn't the only team in the SEC getting the short end of the stick with incompetent officiating. And if you want your argument to hold more water, I'd first of all accept that position.
Believe me though, it pisses me off too that what is supposed to be the best conference in the NCAA can't even get fair officiating on a consistent basis.
This post was edited on 9/7/10 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 9/7/10 at 7:18 pm to bee Rye
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he signaled LSU ball because a UNC player made contact with the ball
which means we're right back to them not knowing what the rule is.
- either its dead when it breaks the plane, and the refs should have blown it dead and given it to UNC (which is how I understand it) or...
- UNC is given a chance to return it, which 37 did, but then lost it to LSU.
the refs didnt blow it dead, or give it to LSU.
and let me just say again, Im not bitching, i know this play meant nothing. what bothers me is that an SEC crew cant even get the most basic calls right under optimum circumstances.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 7:19 pm to geauxtigahs87
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Believe me though, it pisses me off too that what is supposed to be the best conference in the NCAA can even get fair officiating on a consistent basis.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 7:25 pm to TheDoc
BTW. Did you know that absolutely no penalties were called on Ole Miss against Jacksonville St. in an entire regulation game and double overtime! SEC officials?
Posted on 9/7/10 at 7:53 pm to medtiger
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This is the way I interpret it as well. However, if a UNC player possessed the ball (picked it up and ran with it), then fumbled it, and LSU recovered; would the ball have been LSU's then?
At least in Louisiana middle school football, no. I returned some punts was back in the day and remember being instructed to just grab the ball and run with it if the kicking team touched it but didn't down it, because no matter what happened the receiving team can get it at the spot of the touch.
However I didn't return punts in highschool, and obviously not in college or the NFL, so I'm not sure.
This seems to agree with me
https://www.answerbag.com/q_view/425369
Posted on 9/7/10 at 7:58 pm to deSandman
[quote]At least in Louisiana middle school football, no. I returned some punts was back in the day and remember being instructed to just grab the ball and run with it if the kicking team touched it but didn't down it, because no matter what happened the receiving team can get it at the spot of the touch.
However I didn't return punts in highschool, and obviously not in college or the NFL, so I'm not sure.
This seems to agree with me
LINK ]
I returned punts in high school, and I concur on this assessment.... for high school.
However I didn't return punts in highschool, and obviously not in college or the NFL, so I'm not sure.
This seems to agree with me
LINK ]
I returned punts in high school, and I concur on this assessment.... for high school.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 8:26 pm to Choupique19
What I am wondering about was the illegal touching penalty that was called on LSU after the punt. Did the player who batted the ball back originally got out of bounds and we didn't see it? I am not sure of the rule, but I have never seen a penalty called for illegal touching on a punt like.
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