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re: Really? Jefferson is the problem?

Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:45 am to
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:45 am to
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I haven't checked to see the truthfulness of this stat....

However, if true that is a scathing argument against our offense. It further puts massive pressure on the defense to be able to stay on the field for long stretches of time.



Can't control starting field position. You can thank PP7 for that stat. Also, we had multiple drives cut short due to us having 5 turnovers.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:45 am to
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It is not that JJ is really good or really bad, as both of those statements are incorrect


as with prior quarterback arguments on the Rant, if you could nuke about 5 unobjective users on each side of the argument, the noise level would drop exponentially...
Posted by GR CHAMP
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:45 am to
(when you need 8 and you throw for 4 .....)

Why have your TE run 4 yards and you need 8 yards- He runs the play they call so bash crow!
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:45 am to
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the one where he let the defender drive him back, then pitched to Shep from about 6 feet away was about as fundamentally flawed as you'll ever see the option run....
Yet it still was run better than last year's option plays.

Not every play is going to be run to perfection.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:46 am to
didn't see anyone else post that. I think he'll finish around 22/10.... Will that be good enough? I dunno...
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:46 am to
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I just followed the posters line of reasoning, when he gave JJ credit for 26 TDS. See how that works?

Do you think he'll throw 2 TDS each game?



Would you or would you not be happy with the performance I listed. 2k+ yards in the air, 26 TDs, and ~10 INTs.

Quit dodging the question.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:47 am to
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Do you think he'll throw 2 TDS each game?


I think he'll average that, yes
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:47 am to
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Why have your TE run 4 yards and you need 8 yards- He runs the play they call so bash crow!



He's talking about the play where JJ didn't hit Clement for a first down and instead checked down to RR. He has NO clue if Clement was even open at the right time.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:47 am to
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Yet it still was run better than last year's option plays.




no, it was just as fundamentally flawed as last year's...he was damn lucky Shep fielded the ball
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:48 am to
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But was HE the reason LSU almost choked that game away sat night? Or even a main reason?




his 2nd halves of football, ever since he has played, has been horrible.


Miss St last year. Almost cost us the game.

FL last year. Zero 2nd half points.

ALA last year. We had like 1-2 1st downs the whole 2nd half.

LA Tech last year. WE score ONE Field goal in the 2nd half. LA TECH!!!!

Ole Miss last year, we managed 6 2nd half points. We lose on a FG.


Lets date back to the end of 08 when Jefferson saw action.

Ole Miss game. 3- 2nd half points.

ARK game. WE put up 23 1st half points, and score 7 in the 2nd half. In the 2nd half, we start 3 drives in ARK territory. And Dont score on 2 of them. And lose by ONE point!
Posted by BT
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:48 am to
there were 5 eligible recivers on the play... FIVE
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:49 am to
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Can't control starting field position. You can thank PP7 for that stat.


true.

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Also, we had multiple drives cut short due to us having 5 turnovers.





So what? Is that not the fault of the offense? Is that not a problem that contributed to a max of 30 yards?
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:49 am to
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there were 5 eligible recivers on the play... FIVE



That doesn't mean that they were open. The fact that he hit RR means that he went through his progressions.
Posted by TIsuGGER
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:49 am to
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He has NO clue if Clement was even open at the right time.

He was. someone posted a youtube link to th play. I watched it several times
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:49 am to
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no, it was just as fundamentally flawed as last year's...he was damn lucky Shep fielded the ball
It was one play.

We gained yards on option plays. . .it was a strength.
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:49 am to
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So what? Is that not the fault of the offense? Is that not a problem that contributed to a max of 30 yards?


It's not Jeffersons fault -- which is who we are discussing here. Jefferson threw an INT that really didn't matter at all.
This post was edited on 9/6/10 at 11:50 am
Posted by sunnydaze
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:50 am to
damn this thread grew...
Posted by Ryno_Kill
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:50 am to
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Can't control starting field position. You can thank PP7 for that stat. Also, we had multiple drives cut short due to us having 5 turnovers.


We couldn't even get field goals out of that field position. The field position thing doesn't exactly help your argument.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:50 am to
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He was. someone posted a youtube link to th play. I watched it several times



So did I. You can see him open late in the play.. but how do you know he got separation early enough?

He was off screen.
This post was edited on 9/6/10 at 11:51 am
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:50 am to
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his 2nd halves of football, ever since he has played, has been horrible
While true, I would have to put this one on second half playcalling.

JJ looked fine in the 2nd half. Crowton puckered up.
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