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I'm confused at the strategy at the beginning of the game...
Posted on 6/6/10 at 2:24 am
Posted on 6/6/10 at 2:24 am
We hit and run with Mahtook at first, they guess right and lick him off with a pitch out.
Then the second inning we don't bunt with 2 on and no out.
It's like one inning Maineiri was going to force the issue and make the defense and pitcher make plays. Then the next inning he decides to play for the big inning with your 6-7-8 hitters coming up...
I don't know it just doesn't make sense. Like he went with his gut on both situations and didn't have a real plan going into the game.
Ok go ahead and ask me who I manage for and all the smartass remarks you guys have. But Coach didn't have a consistent gameplan going into the game.
He knew the total score in this one wouldn't reach double digits. And I'm perfectly fine with the hit and run attempt in the first but tottally disagree not bunting Landry in the second.
Then the second inning we don't bunt with 2 on and no out.
It's like one inning Maineiri was going to force the issue and make the defense and pitcher make plays. Then the next inning he decides to play for the big inning with your 6-7-8 hitters coming up...
I don't know it just doesn't make sense. Like he went with his gut on both situations and didn't have a real plan going into the game.
Ok go ahead and ask me who I manage for and all the smartass remarks you guys have. But Coach didn't have a consistent gameplan going into the game.
He knew the total score in this one wouldn't reach double digits. And I'm perfectly fine with the hit and run attempt in the first but tottally disagree not bunting Landry in the second.
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Posted on 6/6/10 at 3:08 am to MrWiseGuy
I hated the hit and run on the first pitch and still hold that it fricked us out of a run in that 1st.
They immediately threw towards Mahtook at first. Hanover has been hitting all post season. I didn't see them tossing him a hittable pitch on the first pitch when they see a stealing threat AND know Paul likes to hit and run a lot. It was a stupid time to try.
They immediately threw towards Mahtook at first. Hanover has been hitting all post season. I didn't see them tossing him a hittable pitch on the first pitch when they see a stealing threat AND know Paul likes to hit and run a lot. It was a stupid time to try.
Posted on 6/6/10 at 3:10 am to MrWiseGuy
I think Paul wasn't expecting much hitting coming into the game so when he got the first hit, he figured he better manufacture some runs. It failed, but we were still hitting well. So next inning, we get two on. He figures the pitcher just doesn't have it so lets open up before the bring in relief. But the pitcher settled down and shut us down for the next 21 outs.
I agree, his ability to see the future was very poor today.
I agree, his ability to see the future was very poor today.
This post was edited on 6/6/10 at 3:12 am
Posted on 6/6/10 at 3:10 am to MrWiseGuy
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And I'm perfectly fine with the hit and run attempt in the first but tottally disagree not bunting Landry in the second.
yup
Posted on 6/6/10 at 3:12 am to Eternalmajin
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I hated the hit and run on the first pitch and still hold that it fricked us out of a run in that 1st.
disagree
the stats say you can run on ucla and mahtook is our best base stealer, plus hanover has been making good contact.
ucla got lucky and guessed right, it happens. how often do you see a first pitch pitch out?
Posted on 6/6/10 at 3:15 am to Eternalmajin
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and still hold that it fricked us out of a run in that 1st.
Can't say that for sure. I thought it was not a bad move. But if it had worked yall would be praisng it.
BTW I don't think it made any difference in the outcome.
This post was edited on 6/6/10 at 8:31 am
Posted on 6/6/10 at 7:12 am to MrWiseGuy
Paul Maineiri does a great job recognizing changes that need to be made between games to give LSU their best chance to win. However he is one of the worst game managers I have ever seen. Even in wins some of his moves are highly questionable and often counterproductive to the effort.
Since arriving at LSU he has run the team out of more potential big innings then I care to recall. When he sent Mahtook on the first pitch knowing there was reason to suspect UCLA would pitch out I knew this was going to be one of those games.
Since arriving at LSU he has run the team out of more potential big innings then I care to recall. When he sent Mahtook on the first pitch knowing there was reason to suspect UCLA would pitch out I knew this was going to be one of those games.
Posted on 6/6/10 at 7:15 am to dukke v
If you are questioning the hit and run then you haven't followed the team the last couple weeks. All of our success has started with hit and runs. We've been doing that in the 1st inning or when we first get guys on base in every game.
Posted on 6/6/10 at 7:16 am to Jay Quest
The hit and run was PM being aggressive. Can't fault that. Not bunting LL was a mistake.
Posted on 6/6/10 at 7:17 am to Jay Quest
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However he is one of the worst game managers I have ever seen.
lulz
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When he sent Mahtook on the first pitch knowing there was reason to suspect UCLA would pitch out I knew this was going to be one of those games.
So you think Mainieri knew there would be a pitchout and he just sent Mikie anyways? You saw that pitchout coming too didn't you?
Posted on 6/6/10 at 8:04 am to MrWiseGuy
I don't think Mainieri did a particularly poor job of coaching in this game. Their pitcher was just on his shite.
Posted on 6/6/10 at 8:14 am to Jay Quest
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Paul Maineiri does a great job recognizing changes that need to be made between games to give LSU their best chance to win. However he is one of the worst game managers I have ever seen. Even in wins some of his moves are highly questionable and often counterproductive to the effort.
Since arriving at LSU he has run the team out of more potential big innings then I care to recall. When he sent Mahtook on the first pitch knowing there was reason to suspect UCLA would pitch out I knew this was going to be one of those games.
wow
Posted on 6/6/10 at 8:16 am to Dead Mike
I liked the hit and run - sometimes that shite happens, but I liked forcing the issue early on. But yea, not bunting LL had me wondering.
As an aside, can anyone remember the last time we sac bunted, and the fielder did not have a shot at the lead runner?
As an aside, can anyone remember the last time we sac bunted, and the fielder did not have a shot at the lead runner?
Posted on 6/6/10 at 8:21 am to Jay Quest
as usual I agrre PM runs from the seat of his trousers and only because the talent level of these great kids does he win!!
Great coach you decide
Great coach you decide
Posted on 6/6/10 at 8:24 am to DEG
Even if they bunted LL, the next two guys weren't even close to making contact. The pitcher was just on his game yesterday.
Posted on 6/6/10 at 8:30 am to DaRobber
I always find it amazing that when we win we have the best players and coaches but when we lose they suck. I guess I can understand how most want to lay blame somewhere but shite happens. 2 teams, only 1 can win. Yes it's been an up and down year but I'm not going to run our players and coaches into the ground.
We still have a chance today so let's support this team, win or lose.
We still have a chance today so let's support this team, win or lose.
Posted on 6/6/10 at 8:31 am to josh336
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If you are questioning the hit and run then you haven't followed the team the last couple weeks
Just realized how I typed it. My bad!!!!
Posted on 6/6/10 at 8:36 am to LSUnGA
I don't know why Alleva just doesn't save a boat load of money by getting rid of all our coaches and then just using the rant for football, basketball, and baseball. It's amazing how intuitive you guys are after the fact.
Posted on 6/6/10 at 8:37 am to LSUnGA
LSUinGA, finally someone with some sense. I have to agree with you 100%. I bet if LSU had won last night, this thread would never even exist. It amazes me how the people who are bitching about PM are not the coach at LSU.
Posted on 6/6/10 at 8:43 am to MrWiseGuy
You people nitpicking and second guessing every little decision PM makes after a loss are really sad. You try and coach a team where you have very little faith in almost ANY pitcher you throw out there...even AR. So he tries to change things up a little or get aggressive and put pressure on a great pitcher..
...the guy is handcuffed this year and feels he has to get 8+ runs every game. That has to be a daunting task and frustrating feeling.
The guy could sit on his butt and not try much of anything and probably not take as much heat. He's working hard to make things happen. It just doesnt always work.
With our team's ERA...we almost have no business being in the NCAA tourney at all...and winning the SEC tourney...almost miraculous.
...the guy is handcuffed this year and feels he has to get 8+ runs every game. That has to be a daunting task and frustrating feeling.
The guy could sit on his butt and not try much of anything and probably not take as much heat. He's working hard to make things happen. It just doesnt always work.
With our team's ERA...we almost have no business being in the NCAA tourney at all...and winning the SEC tourney...almost miraculous.
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