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BP is so full of fail its funny
Posted on 6/2/10 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 6/2/10 at 11:09 pm
Just saw the headline that they have now abondoned the stuck saw and the BOP cap altogether.
I just think numerous failed attempts are starting to look like the coyote from looney toons.
I just think numerous failed attempts are starting to look like the coyote from looney toons.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 11:14 pm to Brightside Bengal
Funny isn't exactly how I would describe it.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 11:16 pm to wilceaux
Where exactly did you see that they were abandoning the LMRP/BOP cap???
Posted on 6/2/10 at 11:20 pm to Brightside Bengal
It's not just BP, it is every badass engineer that ever walked the earth getting there arse kicked right now. People with the IQ's that we couldn't even fathom are working on this thing.
BP, Shell, Exxon, Chevron, etc... is working on this to stop it and getting pwned!!
BP, Shell, Exxon, Chevron, etc... is working on this to stop it and getting pwned!!
Posted on 6/2/10 at 11:22 pm to Brightside Bengal
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Brightside Bengal
Your post if full of FAIL except its not even funny..it's fricking sad.
Since your fricking brain is so full of ideas and you have so much experince working offshore on deepwater wells....what should be the next step??????
Posted on 6/2/10 at 11:33 pm to Brightside Bengal
quote:
BP is so full of fail its funny
no
Posted on 6/2/10 at 11:55 pm to Brightside Bengal
quote:Right. Working remotely in 5,000fsw is sooo easy. Even a caveman could do it!
I just think numerous failed attempts are starting to look like the coyote from looney toons.
Posted on 6/2/10 at 11:56 pm to SmackDaniels
quote:
It's not just BP, it is every badass engineer that ever walked the earth getting there arse kicked right now. People with the IQ's that we couldn't even fathom are working on this thing.
BP, Shell, Exxon, Chevron, etc... is working on this to stop it and getting pwned!!
Right so which of their high IQ engineers came up with the "lets just throw trash and mud down there" idea?
Posted on 6/2/10 at 11:59 pm to Taxing Authority
What if they sank 10,000 barrel containers to the bottom of the sea to fill up with oil and unloaded them when they floated back to the top? Probably would need a dozen to work...
Posted on 6/3/10 at 12:52 am to theGarnetWay
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Right so which of their high IQ engineers came up with the "lets just throw trash and mud down there" idea?
The same ones who used that technique succesfully on other wells impacted by hurricanes etc. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Posted on 6/3/10 at 1:02 am to C
quote:No such containers available. And takes too long to build them. You can't send a regular empty tank down. The overpressure from the water at that depth will crush them like a tin can. They would need to specially constructed containers with proper reinforcement, etc. Would take months to engineer, procure, and fabricate.
What if they sank 10,000 barrel containers to the bottom of the sea to fill up with oil and unloaded them when they floated back to the top?
This post was edited on 6/3/10 at 1:05 am
Posted on 6/3/10 at 1:19 am to Taxing Authority
How about this idea. A soft cofferdam made of industrial strength plastic that is tied to the BOP valve and runs all the way to the surface. Boom the oil off at the surface and pump it into oil tankers.
Posted on 6/3/10 at 1:35 am to DaphneTigah
I think that after the top kill did not work, they should have stayed hooked up to the bop and started pumping freshwater into the bop. As the freshwater would have started taking the path of least resistance ( back out if the riser) under the pressure conditions. Hydrates would have started forming and it would have created an ice plug. If the ice plug would have sealed the leak they could have resumed pumping heavy mud ( if the pressures would have allowed it without taking a chance if blowing the surface casing)
If that failed they could have stayed hooked to the bop and flowed out of the same pipe they were pumping into. The hydrostatic head of the hydrocarbons coming to the surface is lower than the seawater to the sea floor. With the assistance of the gas, I think they could have sucessfully brought some to surface.
Of course they have many brilliant engineers that are working on this and their main concern is to get it stopped. I sm sure that they are doing everything they can think that will posssibly work. They know exact details of everything that is going on and things expected to happen with everything they try. Just being a citizen of the public we only have the information that is released to us.
If that failed they could have stayed hooked to the bop and flowed out of the same pipe they were pumping into. The hydrostatic head of the hydrocarbons coming to the surface is lower than the seawater to the sea floor. With the assistance of the gas, I think they could have sucessfully brought some to surface.
Of course they have many brilliant engineers that are working on this and their main concern is to get it stopped. I sm sure that they are doing everything they can think that will posssibly work. They know exact details of everything that is going on and things expected to happen with everything they try. Just being a citizen of the public we only have the information that is released to us.
Posted on 6/3/10 at 1:42 am to Taxing Authority
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You can't send a regular empty tank down. The overpressure from the water at that depth will crush them like a tin can.
You fill the container with salt water, the container sinks. The oil is then pumped into the container at the leak, the water is forced out. When the container is full of oil, it rises to the top. What other engineering needs to be done? the container is never sealed from the outside pressure while it is rising and falling.
ETA: an open tin can will not be crushed at any depth that I am aware of.
This post was edited on 6/3/10 at 1:45 am
Posted on 6/3/10 at 1:51 am to C
quote:
You fill the container with salt water, the container sinks. The oil is then pumped into the container at the leak, the water is forced out. When the container is full of oil, it rises to the top. What other engineering needs to be done? the container is never sealed from the outside pressure while it is rising and falling.
ETA: an open tin can will not be crushed at any depth that I am aware of.
Seems like a sound idea if they don't run into temperature related problems at depth.
Posted on 6/3/10 at 1:52 am to C
Hey C, are you actually in Brisbane?
Posted on 6/3/10 at 1:53 am to C
quote:Ah. Now I see what you're saying. Not a bad idea. But how do you keep the container from floating while it's filling? Also how do you let it return to the surface under control? You can't push down with a downline. A bouyant container will rise like a cork, with some speed.
You fill the container with salt water, the container sinks. The oil is then pumped into the container at the leak, the water is forced out. When the container is full of oil, it rises to the top. What other engineering needs to be done? the container is never sealed from the outside pressure while it is rising and falling.
We experienced this with a separator on a deck that went down after Katrina. Divers cut it loose, and it shot up to the surface. Luckily missing the dive boat !
quote:Correct. I was thinking closed vessel.
ETA: an open tin can will not be crushed at any depth that I am aware of
This post was edited on 6/3/10 at 1:55 am
Posted on 6/3/10 at 2:38 am to Taxing Authority
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But how do you keep the container from floating while it's filling? Also how do you let it return to the surface under control?
Yeah I'm not sure what force this will have. Maybe attach fins to the sides to direct it to a certain area so it doesn't crash into a vessel.
Just another idea in a long list of solutions.
Posted on 6/3/10 at 2:39 am to redstick13
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Hey C, are you actually in Brisbane?
Yeah for about another 4 months. Great city for families.
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