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BP is so full of fail its funny

Posted on 6/2/10 at 11:09 pm
Posted by Brightside Bengal
New Metairie
Member since Sep 2007
3943 posts
Posted on 6/2/10 at 11:09 pm
Just saw the headline that they have now abondoned the stuck saw and the BOP cap altogether.


I just think numerous failed attempts are starting to look like the coyote from looney toons.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12970 posts
Posted on 6/2/10 at 11:14 pm to
Funny isn't exactly how I would describe it.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3242 posts
Posted on 6/2/10 at 11:16 pm to
Where exactly did you see that they were abandoning the LMRP/BOP cap???
Posted by UnclassyStudent
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
2894 posts
Posted on 6/2/10 at 11:18 pm to
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15364 posts
Posted on 6/2/10 at 11:20 pm to
It's not just BP, it is every badass engineer that ever walked the earth getting there arse kicked right now. People with the IQ's that we couldn't even fathom are working on this thing.

BP, Shell, Exxon, Chevron, etc... is working on this to stop it and getting pwned!!
Posted by DaphneTigah
Flying under the radar.
Member since Dec 2007
4993 posts
Posted on 6/2/10 at 11:22 pm to
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Brightside Bengal



Your post if full of FAIL except its not even funny..it's fricking sad.

Since your fricking brain is so full of ideas and you have so much experince working offshore on deepwater wells....what should be the next step??????
Posted by chip207
Bossier Parish
Member since Feb 2007
4994 posts
Posted on 6/2/10 at 11:33 pm to
quote:

BP is so full of fail its funny

no
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62486 posts
Posted on 6/2/10 at 11:55 pm to
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I just think numerous failed attempts are starting to look like the coyote from looney toons.
Right. Working remotely in 5,000fsw is sooo easy. Even a caveman could do it!
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27132 posts
Posted on 6/2/10 at 11:56 pm to
quote:

It's not just BP, it is every badass engineer that ever walked the earth getting there arse kicked right now. People with the IQ's that we couldn't even fathom are working on this thing.

BP, Shell, Exxon, Chevron, etc... is working on this to stop it and getting pwned!!


Right so which of their high IQ engineers came up with the "lets just throw trash and mud down there" idea?
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28149 posts
Posted on 6/2/10 at 11:59 pm to
What if they sank 10,000 barrel containers to the bottom of the sea to fill up with oil and unloaded them when they floated back to the top? Probably would need a dozen to work...
Posted by TexTiga
SugarLand , Tx
Member since Oct 2007
2546 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 12:52 am to
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Right so which of their high IQ engineers came up with the "lets just throw trash and mud down there" idea?

The same ones who used that technique succesfully on other wells impacted by hurricanes etc. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62486 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 1:02 am to
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What if they sank 10,000 barrel containers to the bottom of the sea to fill up with oil and unloaded them when they floated back to the top?
No such containers available. And takes too long to build them. You can't send a regular empty tank down. The overpressure from the water at that depth will crush them like a tin can. They would need to specially constructed containers with proper reinforcement, etc. Would take months to engineer, procure, and fabricate.
This post was edited on 6/3/10 at 1:05 am
Posted by TIGER2
Mandeville.La
Member since Jan 2006
10508 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 1:19 am to
How about this idea. A soft cofferdam made of industrial strength plastic that is tied to the BOP valve and runs all the way to the surface. Boom the oil off at the surface and pump it into oil tankers.
Posted by shaunk128
Houma
Member since Jan 2008
82 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 1:35 am to
I think that after the top kill did not work, they should have stayed hooked up to the bop and started pumping freshwater into the bop. As the freshwater would have started taking the path of least resistance ( back out if the riser) under the pressure conditions. Hydrates would have started forming and it would have created an ice plug. If the ice plug would have sealed the leak they could have resumed pumping heavy mud ( if the pressures would have allowed it without taking a chance if blowing the surface casing)

If that failed they could have stayed hooked to the bop and flowed out of the same pipe they were pumping into. The hydrostatic head of the hydrocarbons coming to the surface is lower than the seawater to the sea floor. With the assistance of the gas, I think they could have sucessfully brought some to surface.

Of course they have many brilliant engineers that are working on this and their main concern is to get it stopped. I sm sure that they are doing everything they can think that will posssibly work. They know exact details of everything that is going on and things expected to happen with everything they try. Just being a citizen of the public we only have the information that is released to us.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28149 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 1:42 am to
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You can't send a regular empty tank down. The overpressure from the water at that depth will crush them like a tin can.


You fill the container with salt water, the container sinks. The oil is then pumped into the container at the leak, the water is forced out. When the container is full of oil, it rises to the top. What other engineering needs to be done? the container is never sealed from the outside pressure while it is rising and falling.

ETA: an open tin can will not be crushed at any depth that I am aware of.
This post was edited on 6/3/10 at 1:45 am
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40396 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 1:51 am to
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You fill the container with salt water, the container sinks. The oil is then pumped into the container at the leak, the water is forced out. When the container is full of oil, it rises to the top. What other engineering needs to be done? the container is never sealed from the outside pressure while it is rising and falling.

ETA: an open tin can will not be crushed at any depth that I am aware of.


Seems like a sound idea if they don't run into temperature related problems at depth.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40396 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 1:52 am to
Hey C, are you actually in Brisbane?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62486 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 1:53 am to
quote:

You fill the container with salt water, the container sinks. The oil is then pumped into the container at the leak, the water is forced out. When the container is full of oil, it rises to the top. What other engineering needs to be done? the container is never sealed from the outside pressure while it is rising and falling.
Ah. Now I see what you're saying. Not a bad idea. But how do you keep the container from floating while it's filling? Also how do you let it return to the surface under control? You can't push down with a downline. A bouyant container will rise like a cork, with some speed.

We experienced this with a separator on a deck that went down after Katrina. Divers cut it loose, and it shot up to the surface. Luckily missing the dive boat !

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ETA: an open tin can will not be crushed at any depth that I am aware of
Correct. I was thinking closed vessel.
This post was edited on 6/3/10 at 1:55 am
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28149 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 2:38 am to
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But how do you keep the container from floating while it's filling? Also how do you let it return to the surface under control?


Yeah I'm not sure what force this will have. Maybe attach fins to the sides to direct it to a certain area so it doesn't crash into a vessel.

Just another idea in a long list of solutions.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28149 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 2:39 am to
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Hey C, are you actually in Brisbane?


Yeah for about another 4 months. Great city for families.
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