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use dispersants is like putting poison in your eye

Posted on 5/27/10 at 10:01 am
Posted by lsugorilla
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Posted on 5/27/10 at 10:01 am
the ocean is your eye.
you accidently get poison in your eye.
you can use a papertowl and dab out the poison of the surface, or put another poison in your eye(not as toxic as the original poison) that breaks it down for it to gradualy go away.

what would you do.

Laboratory experiments have shown that dispersants increased toxins by 100 times and may kill fish eggs-journal Environmental Toxicology and Chemistry.
This post was edited on 5/27/10 at 10:05 am
Posted by guttata
prairieville
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Posted on 5/27/10 at 10:14 am to
Or you can just flush it out with water.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/27/10 at 10:14 am to
Thanks.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/27/10 at 10:16 am to
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Or you can just flush it out with water.


And the poison goes somewhere else....but its still poison and it is going to our coast.
Posted by lsugorilla
PNW
Member since Sep 2009
6524 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 10:34 am to
my point is cleaning it out while it is on the surface is better than dumping more chemicals on it to hide them.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 10:38 am to
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my point is cleaning it out while it is on the surface is better than dumping more chemicals on it to hide them.


Your assumption that crude oil is poison that is not naturally in the ocean is dumb and makes your entire theory flat out wrong.

I'm not arguing with you for fear of you whipping out another forwarded email simile and increasing the amount of dumb on this board, but I would just like to go on the record saying that this analogy is completely irrelevant and that I sincerely hope that you stop the flow of anti-intelligent thought by not pushing this out to more people.

Thanks,

Flask
Posted by lsugorilla
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/27/10 at 10:42 am to
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another forwarded email simile


man, i though of this last nigh, and posted this this morning. its already a email sensation. i;m going to be famous.

Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 10:44 am to
I've always wondered about the people who start chain emails.

I would like to meet one of them one day.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 5/27/10 at 10:56 am to
It's actually a metaphor, not a simile. But it's still a dumb metaphor.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22631 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 11:02 am to
I'm sure the public would of gone for that. Just let the oil float around and do nothing. Get real.
Posted by lsugorilla
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Member since Sep 2009
6524 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 11:08 am to
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I'm sure the public would of gone for that. Just let the oil float around and do nothing. Get real.


actually i was thinking of...
Contain the spill with booms and collect it from the water surface using skimmer equipment. Spilt oil floats on water and initially forms a slick that is a few millimeters thick. There are various types of booms that can be used either to surround and isolate a slick, or to block the passage of a slick to vulnerable areas such as the intake of a desalination plant or fish-farm pens or other sensitive locations. Boom types vary from inflatable neoprene tubes to solid, but buoyant material. Most rise up about a meter above the water line. Some are designed to sit flush on tidal flats while others are applicable to deeper water and have skirts which hang down about a meter below the waterline. Skimmers float across the top of the slick contained within the boom and suck or scoop the oil into storage tanks on nearby vessels or on the shore.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/27/10 at 11:18 am to
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22631 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 11:27 am to
7 more lawsuits.
Posted by lsugorilla
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Member since Sep 2009
6524 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 11:28 am to
The two types of dispersants BP is spraying in the Gulf are banned for use on oil spills in the U.K. As EPA-approved products , BP has been using them in greater quantities than dispersants have ever been used in the history of US oil spills.
BP is using two products from a line of dispersants called Corexit , which EPA data appears to show is more toxic and less effective on South Louisiana crude than other available dispersants, according to Greenwire.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22631 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 11:30 am to
I'm sure they are using it b/c they know it will kill more wildlife.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31768 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 11:35 am to
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I'm sure they are using it b/c they know it will kill more wildlife.


They know that people are measuring the surface area of the spill to determine how much oil has actually spilled, which will in turn affect how much they will have to pay in penalties.

FACT
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34205 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 11:49 am to
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They know that people are measuring the surface area of the spill to determine how much oil has actually spilled, which will in turn affect how much they will have to pay in penalties.


BINGO! Out of sight out of mind should have never been implemented.

Now we have huge underwater plumes of oil that will lurk for years and years and wash up over the beaches
Posted by MC123
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2042 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 12:14 pm to
It is criminal. It has everything to do with saving face with BPs PR and cutting cleanup costs, and nothing to do with what is best for the environment. And, to make it even worse, our government is allowing it.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

They know that people are measuring the surface area of the spill to determine how much oil has actually spilled, which will in turn affect how much they will have to pay in penalties.


That didn't even come close to addressing the post that you were replying to.

quote:

Now we have huge underwater plumes of oil that will lurk for years and years and wash up over the beaches


The bacteria in the ocean naturally process the oil. I don't think it will have the long lasting impact you are thinking of.

However, I must admit that those plumes do bother me, just not for the reasons that they bother you.
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