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Another application idea........
Posted on 5/22/10 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 5/22/10 at 10:44 pm
if they are so concerned about oxygen deprivation and the oil not breaking down naturally with microbes then in stead of the stinger line spraying dispersant at the subsea leak......why dont they treat the leak with stabilized 50% hydrogen peroxide? This is a commodity product that is readily available and it is a SUPER oxidizer. they could start the oxidation process right there at the leak 5000ft down and dramatically raise the oxygen levels. Increasing the oxygen levels would kick start the oil digesting bacteria.
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Posted on 5/23/10 at 7:30 am to supatigah
can we 80/20 on this idea too? (80 to me)
Posted on 5/23/10 at 7:50 am to supatigah
The only reason against I can think of is if the bacteria in question are aerotolerent rather than aerobic, and as a result the peroxide will kill them with no effect because they dont even have the ability to turn the peroxide to oxygen.
This post was edited on 5/23/10 at 8:11 am
Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:14 am to Volvagia
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The only reason against I can think of is if the bacteria in question are aerotolerent rather than aerobic, and as a result the peroxide will kill them with no effect because they dont even have the ability to turn the peroxide to oxygen.
oxidizers kill bacteria by "burning them" but in this case the dilution factor of the sea water would be so great the peroxide would not have much killing effect. Injecting peroxide directly into the flow would start the oxidation process on the crude but it would probably not do much to mitigate it immediately
however it would dramatically increase the oxygen levels around the spill site which in this case would be a very good thing.
Posted on 5/23/10 at 11:21 am to supatigah
This will be treated very similar to hypoxia events which they have been studying in the Gulf for decades.
Fish move from low concentrations of oxygen to higher concentration.
Fisherman often load up during hypoxia events. When they find out where the fish and shrimp are they load up due to the concentration.
Fish swimming in a high concentration of oxygen oil laden water or fish swimming in a natural high oxygen concentration water.
There will be fish kills for menhaden and catfish, etc...but probably not for redfish, trout, tuna, etc....
Fish move from low concentrations of oxygen to higher concentration.
Fisherman often load up during hypoxia events. When they find out where the fish and shrimp are they load up due to the concentration.
Fish swimming in a high concentration of oxygen oil laden water or fish swimming in a natural high oxygen concentration water.
There will be fish kills for menhaden and catfish, etc...but probably not for redfish, trout, tuna, etc....
Posted on 5/23/10 at 12:06 pm to Mudminnow
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There will be fish kills for menhaden and catfish, etc...but probably not for redfish, trout, tuna, etc....
I think that you are right. The game fish will be able to move out of harms way, but the baitfish and crustaceans won't.
The thing that sucks is that Louisiana's bait population is going to be dramatically depleted, and as a result, our fish population will be depleted. No bait, no fish. The reason we have always had more fish than the rest of the gulf, is because we had more bait than the rest of the gulf. Hopefully, the western part of the state won't be as effected.
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