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Prolly stupid ? but why didn't they.......

Posted on 5/5/10 at 4:56 pm
Posted by ELLSSUU
Member since Jan 2005
7958 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 4:56 pm
put the oil booms around the area of the rig after it sank as a precaution. I know they were reporting no leaks at that time but seems that it would have been a hell of a lot cheaper to boom a mile radius around the rig's position immediately and use the cleaning equipment for that small area etc. Hindsight 50/50 and all but.....why didn't they?
This post was edited on 5/5/10 at 4:58 pm
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 5:04 pm to
what would stop the oil booms from drifting away while the oil kept flowing from the bottom?
Posted by FriscoKid
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2005
5191 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 5:05 pm to
oil doesnt ride an elevator to the surface.
Posted by Big L
Houston
Member since Sep 2005
6015 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 5:06 pm to
I was asking the same thing...I'm picturing an emergency conference call immediately after the explosion with BP execs where someone asks this very question and they decide against it since there's no evidence of a leak. I gotta think that they could have at least started looking at the prevailing winds direction and started placing booms on the leeward side of the site.
Posted by Big L
Houston
Member since Sep 2005
6015 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

what would stop the oil booms from drifting away while the oil kept flowing from the bottom?


Boats, maybe?

Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40439 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 5:17 pm to
You don't want boats involved with fire and rescue getting booms caught in their screws.
Posted by ELLSSUU
Member since Jan 2005
7958 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 5:49 pm to
Thanks, all good answers. I guess I was assuming that the Oil would flow straight up which in retrospect has to be wrong. The dynamics of the GOM would push the oil flow in different directions depending on several factors.

Thanks.
Posted by Luke4LSU
Member since Oct 2007
11986 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

I'm picturing an emergency conference call immediately after the explosion with BP execs where someone asks this very question and they decide against it since there's no evidence of a leak.


It's quite clear that you don't work for a major oil company if you think this.
Posted by BayouBuster
Mathews, la.
Member since Aug 2009
490 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 10:58 pm to
You don't want boats involved with fire and rescue getting booms caught in their screws.


rescue fine / the boats spraying rig with water was a waste of time. Just another "hey, look we are doing everything we can". That fire being fed by gas and oil was not going out with those measly streams of water.
Posted by shaunk128
Houma
Member since Jan 2008
82 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 11:10 pm to
quote:

the boats spraying rig with water was a waste of time. Just another "hey, look we are doing everything we can"


Those boats that were spraying the rig with water was doing everything that they could. I have never been in a similar position and I assume you havent either. In the heat of the moment they were just doing the best they could do. We all know that it wasent doing much if anything to the fire, but it must have been an awful feeling to be there and know they could do nothing more. Give em a break. Holding boom around the rig would have done absolutly nothing either. Like one poster said.
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"oil doesnt ride an elevator to the surface."
This post was edited on 5/5/10 at 11:16 pm
Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
2904 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 8:16 am to
quote:

rescue fine / the boats spraying rig with water was a waste of time. Just another "hey, look we are doing everything we can". That fire being fed by gas and oil was not going out with those measly streams of water.

they weren't trying to put out the fire, they were trying to keep the rig cool enough to stay afloat while attempts were made to shut the well in w/ ROV's.
Posted by luvmesumlsu
DFW
Member since Dec 2005
2320 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 8:32 am to
quote:

they were trying to keep the rig cool enough to stay afloat while attempts were made to shut the well in w/ ROV's.


I understand they had to make a showing, but talk about "pissing in the wind".......

Keep the rig cool...........sheesh! Did you see that inferno?
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42123 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 8:40 am to
Currents under the surface carry the oil out, and would render the booms ineffective.
Posted by Big L
Houston
Member since Sep 2005
6015 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 8:50 am to
I would think that they could basically patrol for where the oil is coming to the surface, which would obviously be a large area since there were three leaks some hundreds of feet apart and obviously got bigger. The other thing the makes it a moot point is the weather we had this past weekend. 20-25 mph winds that made 10 foot waves, which would probably make a boom pretty uneffective (perhaps not...I don't know enough about the dynamics of a boom). I agree that trying to shut it off at the BOP was the best approach...just sucks that the BOP couldn't be activated.
This post was edited on 5/6/10 at 8:51 am
Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 8:57 am to
quote:

quote: they were trying to keep the rig cool enough to stay afloat while attempts were made to shut the well in w/ ROV's. I understand they had to make a showing, but talk about "pissing in the wind"....... Keep the rig cool...........sheesh! Did you see that inferno?


this situation appears to fall under "damned if you do and damned if you don't"
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