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The Invention of Lying

Posted on 3/6/10 at 10:24 am
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 3/6/10 at 10:24 am
So, OK, I take it that Ricky Gervais is an atheist and this movie displays that bias. The Ten Commandments on pizza boxes... hardy har. This thing was a complete bore.

I kept thinking of "Groundhog Day" and how it did so much so terrifically within its own particular aberration of reality. The Invention of Lying just didn't measure up.

I don't know... I haven't really thought about it much, but my first inclination regarding a society where brains are incapable of telling lies is that people would have figured out early that it would be better to just say nothing instead of hurting others unnecessarily... especially hurting strangers in a society wherein violent crime still exists. So, for me, even though the movie had a deliberately preposterous premise there was a lot of unjustifiable preposterousness on top of that.

Besides all that, there was nothing funny in any of it.
Posted by iggle
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/6/10 at 1:19 pm to
yawn @ this thread.

quote:

Besides all that, there was nothing funny in any of it.


Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 3/6/10 at 2:30 pm to
It had humorous moments, but the joke of everybody saying exactly what they thought got old pretty quick.

"frick the man in sky," was kinda chucklesome though.
Posted by lilbadness
Texas
Member since Oct 2007
1587 posts
Posted on 3/6/10 at 6:13 pm to
I saw it last night and never even smiled one time. I went in thinking it would be decently funny but was largely let down. This movie sucks arse.
Posted by ctalati32
Member since Sep 2007
4068 posts
Posted on 3/6/10 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

I haven't really thought about it much, but my first inclination regarding a society where brains are incapable of telling lies is that people would have figured out early that it would be better to just say nothing instead of hurting others unnecessarily...



I assume that if there's no lying then there can be no lies of omission so you have to say what's on your mind.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
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Posted on 3/6/10 at 7:29 pm to
What did yall expect? Ricky Gervais is not funny.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 3/6/10 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

It had humorous moments, but the joke of everybody saying exactly what they thought got old pretty quick.

This. The laughs turned to chuckles turned to smiles turned to not even paying attention within the first 15-20 minutes.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 3/6/10 at 8:59 pm to
quote:






So, you actually thought this movie was good?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/6/10 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

Ricky Gervais is not funny.

whaaaaAAAAAAAt?
Posted by iggle
Member since Oct 2007
2649 posts
Posted on 3/6/10 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

So, you actually thought this movie was good?



I actually liked it. As did the girl I saw it with, and a few other friends that saw it as well. None of us thought it was some great hilarious movie, but everyone liked it. If you don't like Ricky Gervais, you won't like the movie. But what did you expect?
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 3/7/10 at 9:49 am to
quote:

you don't like Ricky Gervais, you won't like the movie. But what did you expect?



I do like Ricky Gervais, and I still didn't like the movie.
Posted by lsufan9193969700
Madisonville
Member since Sep 2003
55839 posts
Posted on 3/7/10 at 9:54 am to
I began a thread about this movie a few weeks ago. I wasn't expecting much from the movie, and I received nothing. The entire premise of the movie would have worked so much better if the characters only "told the truth" when they were asked a question that many of us would answer with a lie (ex: no, baby, your butt looks fine in those jeans.)

The entire "Hey, I am going to go upstairs and masturbate for a while. We are not going to have sex later because you are ugly..." crap that went on for 80% of the dialogue was annoying.
This post was edited on 3/7/10 at 10:05 am
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20994 posts
Posted on 3/7/10 at 10:01 am to
quote:

This. The laughs turned to chuckles turned to smiles turned to not even paying attention within the first 15-20 minutes.


Yep
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 3/7/10 at 10:04 am to
I don't know if the opposite of funny is pain, fear, anger or boredom, but either way, Gervais fits under either definition.
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/7/10 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Ricky Gervais is not funny.

I haven't seen the movie in question but his stand up is fantastic.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 3/7/10 at 10:11 am to
quote:

I haven't seen the movie in question but his stand up is fantastic.

Have not seen that. I thought he was funny in some brief cameos and limited roles, but not enough to carry a main comedy role.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 3/7/10 at 10:32 am to
I'm fine with alternate realities... yes, it's possible that people evolved without being able to tell lies... but this movie was logically inconsistent within its own premise, and that disqualified it for me.

Gervais's vision of a society that can not tell lies also apparently meant that nobody could be mistaken. For example, when Ricky told the bank teller he had $800 in his account and her computer told her otherwise, even in a lie-less society there is a great possibility he could have simply been mistaken. If people can't even make mental mistakes I had to wonder how Napoleon's wars had ever occurred. Surely both sides would have just accepted whatever the other side said they were entitled to?

Also, Ricky's apparent message is that religion would never have occurred on the planet if the first religionist hadn't invented a lie. I don't think that makes much sense evolutionarily... surely an ancient person seeing lightning bolts from the sky might have thought there was a powerful being up there. You don't have to lie to believe so.

It also bugged me that Ricky, a lying thief, is the hero of this movie and we're supposed to sympathize with him???? What's the message here?

All of that would have been OK if there were some laughs. But there weren't.


Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
15899 posts
Posted on 3/7/10 at 10:50 am to
Rex, you give this way too much thought.

It was a movie man. Lighten up.

99% of all movies have inaccuracies in them.
Posted by spruce22
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
2214 posts
Posted on 3/7/10 at 11:10 am to
quote:

Have not seen that. I thought he was funny in some brief cameos and limited roles, but not enough to carry a main comedy role.


Yea, Gervais could never carry a main comedy role through at least two series with critical acclaim or anything like that.
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
15823 posts
Posted on 3/7/10 at 1:08 pm to
The OP and some others here just don't "get" Ricky Gervais' reactionary comedy.

He plays an "everyman" that is put in uncomfortable situations, and his comedy is about those reactions and/or his observations to those uncomfortable situations.

The joke is not about how horrible or shocking the comments are made about him (ala the dating scenes with Jennifer Garner), it's his passive-reaction of disbelief to those comments.

The joke is not that Ten Commandments is on a pizza box, but the reaction of disbelief to the incredulous devotion that the masses are willing to accept a set of Ten Commandments written on a pizza box.

Seriously though, if you didn't already "get" that, you might enjoy Disaster Movie. The Invention of Lying was brilliant, and yes, I laughed throughout the movie.

Gervais homework for some humorless posters:
Ricky Gervais' observational/ REACTION OF DISBELIEF to reading a real book about Gay Animals

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