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Line of credit or Signature Loan
Posted on 2/10/10 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 2/10/10 at 4:27 pm
Looking into getting either a line of credit or signature loan.
Reason: To pay off credit card debt on cards that are now upwards of 20% one even pushes 29.9%. Wife and I have a little over $10k in credit card debt.
We own have a house note ($974/month) and two
car notes ($700/month). Her transmission went out last year on her Honda that had over 200k miles. My truck note will be paid off this summer so we thought we could swing it at the time since we had some savings.
Savings are gone (due to medical bills and high deductable ins).
Reason: To pay off credit card debt on cards that are now upwards of 20% one even pushes 29.9%. Wife and I have a little over $10k in credit card debt.
We own have a house note ($974/month) and two
Savings are gone (due to medical bills and high deductable ins).
Posted on 2/10/10 at 5:01 pm to LSUCrawdaddy
What kind of interest rate are you seeing? I have been thinking of doing the same thing.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 5:05 pm to LSUCrawdaddy
If you have any equity in your home, have you considered a home equity line of credit? (Maybe that is what you are referring to.) Most interest paid on a home equity loan is a deductible expense for income tax purposes so you get a slight benefit there over interest on a signature loan.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 5:07 pm to LSUCrawdaddy
If you are talking about a line of credit against your home equity, I generally think it's a bad idea to convert unsecured debt to secured debt except under rare, extreme circumstances.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 5:08 pm to Martavius
quote:Why?
I generally think it's a bad idea to convert unsecured debt to secured debt except under rare, extreme circumstances.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 5:17 pm to LSURussian
Why would anyone want to convert unsecured debt? First, most people don;t have the discipline to not run up the credit cards again and second which do you think is the better of two bad situations - defaulting on a credit card or defaulting on a HELOC?
I would work with the credit card providers as much as possible before tapping into home equity (which could go down).
I would work with the credit card providers as much as possible before tapping into home equity (which could go down).
Posted on 2/10/10 at 5:17 pm to Martavius
quote:
extreme circumstances.
Like 30% interest rates?
Posted on 2/10/10 at 5:24 pm to LSURussian
quote:
I generally think it's a bad idea to convert unsecured debt to secured debt except under rare, extreme circumstances.
Why?
Because most people turn around and run up the credit cards again.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 5:25 pm to TheHiddenFlask
quote:
Like 30% interest rates?
My first question is has there been an attempt to reduce that rate with the creditor. If you are at risk of default, d you think the bank will pick default ($0) or get what they can?
Posted on 2/10/10 at 5:26 pm to Cash
quote:
Because most people turn around and run up the credit cards again.
I didn't take that into account.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 5:28 pm to TheHiddenFlask
quote:
What kind of interest rate are you seeing? I have been thinking of doing the same thing.
I'm seeing sig loans at 8.99% at credit unions. I have a cc that we used to pay for $5k of our wedding back in '07, had a 0% rate. When gustav came we went to gulf shores for a week and missed one payment which made caused the rate to sky rocket to 35%. I've gotten down to 29.9% now.
I've been in my home for a little over a year but have made major improvments so I may have some equity but do not want to go the way of HELOC.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 5:30 pm to Martavius
quote:
Why would anyone want to convert unsecured debt?
1) To reduce the interest rate on the balance owed from 20%+ to less than 10%.
2) The interest is deductible for income tax purposes. He could use the additional tax refund to apply to the home equity loan, if he has the discipline to do so.
3) The additional interest which is not being paid could be applied to principal which would pay off the balance much faster than under the credit card repayment schedule, thereby saving hundreds, or perhaps even thousands of interest expense.
quote:The original poster would obviously have to guard against doing that. Since he had the good sense to seek the Money Board's advice, I can only assume he does not fall into the category of "most people."
First, most people don;t have the discipline to not run up the credit cards again
quote:
second which do you think is the better of two bad situations - defaulting on a credit card or defaulting on a HELOC?
If he is able to pay the CC balance, he will more than able to make the HELOC payments. Thus, there will be less chance of default under the HELOC than under the CC loan.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 5:33 pm to LSURussian
Let me guess, you work for a bank.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 5:34 pm to LSUCrawdaddy
BTW: CC's have been destroyed. I had two bank cards and two gas cards, wife had 3 bank cards and a old navy.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 5:35 pm to Martavius
quote:Wrong. Guess again.
Let me guess, you work for a bank.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 5:36 pm to LSURussian
Well, that shitty sales pitch had banker written all over it.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 5:37 pm to LSURussian
I hadn't thopught about the tax breaks on the HELOC, but like I said we have lived in the home for a little over a year so how much equity could we have?
Posted on 2/10/10 at 5:37 pm to Martavius
quote:And your "sales pitch" had ignorance written all over it.....
Well, that shitty sales pitch had banker written all over it.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 5:40 pm to LSURussian
And you can go suck a cock.
Posted on 2/10/10 at 5:41 pm to LSUCrawdaddy
quote:That depends mostly on how much of a down payment did you make when you got the loan. If you had a minimum down payment (meaning how much equity you put into the house yourself vs. how much you borrowed) you probably don't have enough equity to cover the CC balances you mentioned.
I said we have lived in the home for a little over a year so how much equity could we have?
However, if you had sold a prior house prior to buying this house and you put the equity you got out of that sale into this house, you might have a chance of having enough equity to cover the big card balances.
You probably can't count on price appreciation over the past year to give you substantial equity after only one year. Not in the housing market we've seen lately. Of course, your specific area might be an exception.
Good luck!
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