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Some say Miles 2007 NC was Luck

Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:38 pm
Posted by aglandry
lafayette
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Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:38 pm
In the penultimate BCS standings, USC had a comfortable lead on LSU (6.90 v 8.43) The Trojans were ranked higher in human polls and computer rankings and also had better strength-of-schedule ratings. The expectations was that USC would play Okla in the Sugar Bowl with LSU left out. But then Boise St. beat Hawaii. That's what happened. Combined with Syracuse's 38-12 pasting of Notre Dame the Tigers got enough boost to nudge USC by .16 of a percentage point getting Okla as USC was left with the Rose Bowl against #4 Michigan. So if it wasn't for luck, SABAN wouldn't have won a NC at LSU. He was lucky just like Miles or any other coach or team. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. Sometimes people forget the TRUTH and FACTS.
Posted by DBG
vermont
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Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:40 pm to
K
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:40 pm to
Doesn't baseball come some point soon
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:41 pm to
There will almost always be some element of luck into getting into the BCSNCG.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:41 pm to
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Some say Miles 2007 NC was Luck


I haven't seen any team go all the way without some help from lady luck. Don't sweat the rantards. They mean well.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

Sometimes people forget the TRUTH and FACTS.


The truth is you have no idea what you have done here.

The fact is Les Miles was coaching Okie St in the timeframe you speaketh of
Posted by stephendomalley
alexandria
Member since Dec 2005
6451 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:41 pm to
every national champion has to have a strong measure of luck, no matter how good they are.

IMHO, miles has one more year to demonstrate that he can actually coach.
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:41 pm to
Yes. Absolutely true.

But some would rather ignore the facts.
Posted by SFVtiger
Member since Oct 2003
4439 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:44 pm to
we were very lucky to get to play for the NC both times. but we won both times.

i remember the chips falling like they did in 03 and how amazed i was it was actually happening. i stayed up to 3:00 Am listening to anyone making the predictions of how the final standings would shake out.

then in 07, despite the worst called game i have ever seen, Pitt wins. and we have 2 losses? i mean, wow. it was meant to be.
Posted by coolmonk
Member since Jan 2007
1196 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:46 pm to
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But some would rather ignore the facts.


Let's talk about today? We are 8-8 in the last 16 SEC games, we can't beat ranked teams and we struggle to beat inferior teams. So, in your opinion, does Miles and staff play a role in that or not? Do you think they are the best coaches in the nation and are doing all that can be done with the talent on the team?
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
31028 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:46 pm to
Both LSU 2003 and LSU 2007, with an home loss(rare of NCAA champs), 2007's two losses(extremely rare)..

Both needed two upsets later in the day after their SECCG wins, to land in the BCSCG.

LSU just never has done the unbeaten thing very well. LSU is closer to Fla's title winning via one-loss seasons in 1996 and 2006 modus-operandi, than are Bama's history of unbeaten title seasons.

It's just the way LSU is.
This post was edited on 1/8/10 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28033 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:47 pm to
winning a NC is always luck.

04-USC had to hang on to beat VA Tech in DC.
05-Texas, well had to have a brain fart from Pete Carroll to come back to beat USC.
06-Florida DE blocked two Ryan Succup FG's, USC lost to UCLA and Florida won the NC.
07-See WV vs Pitt
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16831 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:49 pm to
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05-Texas, well had to have a brain fart from Pete Carroll to come back to beat USC.


Also, a missed call by the refs. Young's knee was down on a pitch that either resulted in a TD or lead to a TD, can't remember.
Posted by Tyger1919
Pineville
Member since Sep 2009
1020 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:55 pm to
Yes there is always luck, but when you are the only Two loss team to win a bcsnc its really fricking lucky, in 03 we just had that one loss and was better than any team in the nation i cant say that about 07
Posted by bayoubaer
BRLA
Member since Sep 2009
553 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 12:56 pm to
Hold On!

Every NC takes lots of luck to reach and luck to win.

Saban, however developed the players that won in 2003, miles did not develop the player that won in 2007. Miles is "lucky" not because he made it to the NC, he was lucky because of the talent he inherited from Saban.
Posted by LSUMafia
Member since May 2005
9862 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 1:07 pm to
Ummmm.... Needing almost every legitimate team to lose TWO games, and then jump from #7 to #2 in the rankings says a lot about how lucky you are. Very different from jumping from #3 to #2.
Posted by DA
Member since Sep 2007
16251 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

There will almost always be some element of luck into getting into the BCSNCG.


Yes, but two loss luck? That late in the season? And playing Tennessee instead of Florida?

That may not happen again, ever.
Posted by aglandry
lafayette
Member since Oct 2008
2574 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

Let's talk about today? We are 8-8 in the last 16 SEC games, we can't beat ranked teams and we struggle to beat inferior teams. So, in your opinion, does Miles and staff play a role in that or not? Do you think they are the best coaches in the nation and are doing all that can be done with the talent on the team?




Let's talk about today.Yes, Miles and his staff are certainly responsible for their record.No, I do not think they are the best coaches in the nation. I think when Stud the "DUD" says he will work harder and better next year, that would indicate to me he set on his arse this year. Judging from the personnel on the OL and their performance this year, I would run his arse off. Former players have said he doesn't stress technique or fundamentals and having watched the OL this year I can certainly believe that. Crowton's offensive play calling is predictable to say the least. When Trindon or Shepard are in the game everyone in Tiger stadium knows what play is coming. You would think that he could be creative enough to run several plays off of the same formation but he never does. Why not have Shepard throw off the sweep instead of always running the ball. Miles needs to publically show some emotions, so that, we know he is alive. He can't always be the nice guy and he'd better face that fact or he will be history. He needs to agressively take charge and show that he is the Leader.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
26358 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 1:20 pm to
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Don't sweat the rantards. They mean well.


I doubt this.
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 1/8/10 at 1:21 pm to
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miles did not develop the player that won in 2007




it was Miles 3rd year

OMG everyone has to discredit anything good he has ever done. He has done some good at LSU.
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