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Once a cheater always a cheater?
Posted on 12/11/09 at 12:35 am
Posted on 12/11/09 at 12:35 am
Ten years ago, in the GTE Byron Nelson Tournament (yes, it was GTE then), my wife and I were on the 17th hole (a Par 3) sitting behind the green, Saturday round. Tiger hits into the green, to the right about 25 feet from the hole. Fluff Cowan is his caddy. Tiger walks up to the ball, spots it and tosses it to his caddy.
When he catches the ball, Fluff puts the ball into his towel to clean it, and both of us clearly saw that he had a second ball in the towel. My wife looked at me and I looked at her and we both said at the same time, "Oh my God! He's cheating. He can't do that."
It was just one of those fleeting moments but how stupid was that? Using one ball to hit and another to putt with? Cheating? Stupid rule? Maybe, but it's still a rule. To this day my wife and I have both considered Tiger less than his public image. He's proven us correct in our assessment.
When he catches the ball, Fluff puts the ball into his towel to clean it, and both of us clearly saw that he had a second ball in the towel. My wife looked at me and I looked at her and we both said at the same time, "Oh my God! He's cheating. He can't do that."
It was just one of those fleeting moments but how stupid was that? Using one ball to hit and another to putt with? Cheating? Stupid rule? Maybe, but it's still a rule. To this day my wife and I have both considered Tiger less than his public image. He's proven us correct in our assessment.
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Posted on 12/11/09 at 12:37 am to Proejo
A ball is a ball.
Posted on 12/11/09 at 12:39 am to Proejo
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To this day my wife and I have both considered Tiger less than his public image. He's proven us correct in our assessment.
frick, why weren't you there to warn us?
Posted on 12/11/09 at 12:45 am to Proejo
ummm, correct me if I'm wrong but he's allowed to change balls on the green.
In fact, I'm almost 100% certain. When you play wedge shots you typically strip your ball, so you would take it out of play and putt with a new one.
So you guys might have been right about him, but for the wrong reasons.
In fact, I'm almost 100% certain. When you play wedge shots you typically strip your ball, so you would take it out of play and putt with a new one.
So you guys might have been right about him, but for the wrong reasons.
Posted on 12/11/09 at 1:06 am to Proejo
:omg:
:omg3:
:omg3:
Posted on 12/11/09 at 9:26 am to Proejo
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Ten years ago, in the GTE Byron Nelson Tournament (yes, it was GTE then), my wife and I were on the 17th hole (a Par 3) sitting behind the green, Saturday round. Tiger hits into the green, to the right about 25 feet from the hole. Fluff Cowan is his caddy. Tiger walks up to the ball, spots it and tosses it to his caddy.
When he catches the ball, Fluff puts the ball into his towel to clean it, and both of us clearly saw that he had a second ball in the towel. My wife looked at me and I looked at her and we both said at the same time, "Oh my God! He's cheating. He can't do that."
It was just one of those fleeting moments but how stupid was that? Using one ball to hit and another to putt with? Cheating? Stupid rule? Maybe, but it's still a rule. To this day my wife and I have both considered Tiger less than his public image. He's proven us correct in our assessment.
I agree that if he switched balls then he cheated. I have been and am a huge Tiger fan since day one. I believe I have watched him as much as anyone. I have never seen him cheat.
As much scrutiny as he gets are there any video or news accounts of this incident? Ive never heard any mention of it except from you and your wife.
Please post the proper links.
This post was edited on 12/11/09 at 9:27 am
Posted on 12/11/09 at 4:34 pm to Proejo
So you're saying Tiger cheated all these years and dishonesty is the reason for his success? Or are you saying the fact that he supposedly cheated on the field makes him a bad husband. What exactly are you saying?
Posted on 12/11/09 at 4:42 pm to Proejo
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When he catches the ball, Fluff puts the ball into his towel to clean it, and both of us clearly saw that he had a second ball in the towel. My wife looked at me and I looked at her and we both said at the same time, "Oh my God! He's cheating. He can't do that."
Kinda trivial huh???
Posted on 12/12/09 at 9:04 am to Proejo
FWIW, I use a clean, unscuffed "putting ball" of the same type that I am playing with ONLY in casual rounds. In tournaments, I don't do it because it is cheating.
To the OP, if Tiger tossed the ball to Fluff to clean then it is certainly possible that Tiger did not know of the switch. Maybe it was just Fluff acting on his own.
The professional golfer that was notorious for cheating was Vijay Singh. My brother-in-law played on the Asian Tour shortly after Vijay left for the PGA Tour and the stories of Vijay's cheating were numerous.
To the OP, if Tiger tossed the ball to Fluff to clean then it is certainly possible that Tiger did not know of the switch. Maybe it was just Fluff acting on his own.
The professional golfer that was notorious for cheating was Vijay Singh. My brother-in-law played on the Asian Tour shortly after Vijay left for the PGA Tour and the stories of Vijay's cheating were numerous.
Posted on 12/12/09 at 11:03 am to Proejo
Shows his questionable character and his willingness to do whatever he feels necessary to win whether it be in golf or sexual prowess. The fact that this jerk was cheating on his fiance, then wife, then pregnant wife the entire time he was dating her, engaged to her and married to her is just a sad, sad commentary on the true values of Tiger Woods. Hypocrite is too nice a word for him. His wife should just be done with him - move herself and those kids to Sweden and give those kids as normal and good of a life as possible. Unfortunately Tiger will not suffer at all if any because he has NEVER put the welfare of his wife and children above his own ego. He's also put his wife's health (the mother of his children) at risk time and again by sleeping with women and not using protection. That's the ultimate insult to Elin in all of this and subsequently to his children. If Elin divorces him, he will go on screwing as many women as he can find. He's only "profoundly sorry" because he was exposed and is at risk of losing his huge endorsement deals. He's been caught before but made a deal to keep it hidden. He wasn't profoundly sorry then and kept on doing it. Sorry is not an emotion that's genuine for Tiger, Sorry is what he is as a husband and father and apparently as a supremely talented player who still feels the need to cheat.
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