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Posted on 12/4/09 at 10:08 pm
Posted by deithree
BC
Member since Nov 2007
42 posts
Posted on 12/4/09 at 10:08 pm
ok pro-les guys have a question for you:

Say Crowton is not fired this year (very possible), we lose 5 games next year (very possible), and our offense is not ranked in the top 50 in the country (very possible), therefore proving that our coaches are still having a problem developing top notch offensive talent and hurting recruiting. Are you still 100% behind Miles being the coach for 2011?

If so, please give us a legitimate reason why!
This post was edited on 12/4/09 at 10:13 pm
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 12/4/09 at 10:09 pm to
Crowton just needs to GTFO now....period.
Posted by specs1
Member since Dec 2005
10015 posts
Posted on 12/4/09 at 10:39 pm to
quote:

ok pro-les guys


Well that rules me out.
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7677 posts
Posted on 12/4/09 at 10:40 pm to
damn, you can do better than that.

les doesn't fire crowton, and lsu looses every game they play for the next two years. yep, they go 0-12, then 0-12.

how come you haven't gone as negative as you have been all year. you can do better. how can you possibly question your incredible forecasting skills?

0-24!! do it you ranturd. all you ranturds, keep it up. go as freakin' negative as you want.
don't believe in the past as any reason for a positive outcome.

your tender belief systems are too valuable to waste. this negative streak has to continue. no matter how wrong yall have been, the posi=tigers have to be negated. do your best, even tho your parental nurturing continues to validate your low self esteem... go ahead, keep drinking, you can wait for the judge to send you to aa.
Posted by jacks1120
Clinton, MS
Member since Nov 2008
66 posts
Posted on 12/4/09 at 11:20 pm to
Nobody would be. That's a lot of what ifs. None of that is going to happen. Who will our 5 losses be to? Fans would turn on any coach if those scenarios came to be.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 12/4/09 at 11:23 pm to
yea, we lose 5 games next year i will certainly feel different about things. the thing some people just don't seem to be able to grasp is that after the NC, we lost our friggin' qb and we had noone but freshmen. then, the OL attrition really got us this year with the said learning qb. we will have some new players next year, but we should be a lot better club. our D will be as good or better than this year and our O should be much better. coaching makes a difference, but the players you have make a huge difference too. just because a guy dominated in high school doesn't make him dominate in college. i don't see us losing 5 games next year. if we do not improve, i will feel as good as i do now. i saw improvement this year and i think miles deserves better treatment than he's getting. i most definately do not believe the program is in decline. i could be wrong but let's let the future play out. if miles doesn't get us back to atlanta in 1-2 years, we need a change.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47597 posts
Posted on 12/4/09 at 11:27 pm to
If Miles goes and Crowton stays, would you support the new coach?
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
10921 posts
Posted on 12/5/09 at 1:10 am to
How many "if's" was that? I lost count.

Crowton must be suffering from dementia because he has gotten alot dumber since 2007.

I think he has had to deal with a line that isn't that great, no good blocking TE, No solid FB and QB that requires to date the offense to be limited big time.

When has Crowton failed as an OC? This year? I will give you that. But based on the man's record I would say it is more talent or personnel driven than it is the scheme or play calling. I am amazed we won 9 games with an offense that pitiful.
Posted by johnsec
Los Angeles/Lafayette
Member since Sep 2009
845 posts
Posted on 12/5/09 at 3:24 am to
quote:

ok pro-les guys have a question for you:

Say Crowton is not fired this year (very possible), we lose 5 games next year (very possible), and our offense is not ranked in the top 50 in the country (very possible), therefore proving that our coaches are still having a problem developing top notch offensive talent and hurting recruiting. Are you still 100% behind Miles being the coach for 2011?
If so, please give us a legitimate reason why!

First, I'm pro-LSU guy, and whoever's head coach, OC or any other coach, I'll support them and will rip 'em a new one if that's warranted.

I know quite a few of the players (and to be fair, some of the coaches), but even if I didn't, I will not harshly criticize the players and their performances if they're giving their all (and they almost always do). Nor will I hold them responsible for LSU's lack of success, such as a 5-loss implosion; that's on the coaches, and we're paying them millions of dollars to make sure that doesn't happen, esp. with the talent we have and some great recruits on the way.

Do you really think 5 losses next yr. is "very possible?" Don't know if you mean 7-5 in the reg. season or 8-5 after a bowl game. That's a separate thread, perhaps, but if LSU has another 5-loss season, we won't have to convince Miles to turn in his keys and clean out his office.

Love your no middle-ground stance: "Are you still 100% behind Miles being the coach for 2011?"). Your subtle "...therefore proving..." reveals your agenda, as well.

As far as Crowden goes (or doesn't go), I've heard he may get another year here, so...
Posted by johnsec
Los Angeles/Lafayette
Member since Sep 2009
845 posts
Posted on 12/5/09 at 3:51 am to
quote:

"...Are you still 100% behind Miles being the coach for 2011?
If so, please give us a legitimate reason why!"

BTW, to whom are you directing your question(s)? Are you suggesting everyone has be either 100 percent behind or 100 percent against Miles?

Also, who the frick is "us?"
Posted by Sammich
Member since Apr 2004
9375 posts
Posted on 12/5/09 at 3:53 am to
quote:

ok pro-LSU guys have a question for you:
Let's go ahead & correct your first sentence....there, done.

Now, you had questions?
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11451 posts
Posted on 12/6/09 at 2:16 am to
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ok pro-les guys


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I find it hard to support him period!


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Wins and losses is the not the question when talking about CLM.


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I would find it hard to support Les if Crowton isn't fired


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I find it hard to support him period!


I hate this statements like this. Are you wanting Les to fail? You are not "pro Les"? There are no sides to be taken here, he is our coach and we cannot, and should not, be against him. Ya think that if we just get as negative as possible that someone will fire Les and hire Tony Dungy, Jon Gruden, or Pete Carrol? I wonder if Pete Carrol would even be on that wish list in the reactionary, short sighted, ADD riddled minds of Tiger "fans". We absolutely have the worst fans in the country.

PS BUT we kick arse at tailgating. During the games, TOO!
This post was edited on 12/6/09 at 2:27 am
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 12/6/09 at 2:45 am to
say the world ends in 2012?! What then smart guy? Huh? What if an F-6 tornado destroys the LSU campus and kills everyone and we have to start a team from scratch, that would stink wouldn't it? You betcha
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