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re: Most folks picked LSU to be 9-3 or 10-2 this season...why?

Posted on 12/1/09 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262007 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 12:38 pm to
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only at the skill positions - neither line has the best talent in this league"




This isn't based on recruitment, based on development.
Posted by Tigermate78
Ukraine
Member since Oct 2009
69 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 12:57 pm to
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This isn't based on recruitment, based on development.


I have to disagree. The talent level isn't as strong as it was two or three years ago on either line (no dominant players). I may be wrong, but I just do not see all this "talent" everyone talks about in the lines. WR yes, DB's yes, some at Linebacker but not at the Michael Brooks level, QB is developing, running backs depleted by injury...loss of Charles Scott was huge in the Bama game...I think it hurt in that game and the Ole Miss game. Just some thoughts
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33963 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 12:57 pm to
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Why are we all in an uproar over finishing right where most of us figured we would finish?


Because we were damn close to having a repeat of last year, or worse.

Posted by KappaSwig
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
502 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 1:00 pm to
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Do you want to disagree with the fact that LSU's best wins were against average or less than average SeC teams?


I totally disagree with you because I have no idea how you are making the comparison as to what teams are "average or less than average". By your comparison, I guess every team outside of Bama & Fla is "average". For example: we just beat (a very good) Arkansas team that got the crap beat out of it by Ole Miss, a team we lost to by 2 points but that also got the crap beat out of it by Miss State, a team we beat, this weekend. Georgia, a team that has struggle all year & that we beat (and looked pretty good doing it, too) beat the #7 team in the country. How do you make enough sense out of that to determine exactly what teams are average?

I'm not saying Les Miles is a great coach or that he's a terrible coach. I want the program to be flying a little higher too (0-6 against Meyer, Saban & Nutt, especially, is tough to swallow). ALL I'm saying is divining insights about the program's potential based on "almost losts" or "quality wins" or "domination" is crazy. I'll take my 9-3 and be happy, given the season we've had.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 1:00 pm to
Stop making sense.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69047 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 1:01 pm to
I thought we would have 2 losses...UF and Ole miss. Mainly because I didnt expect bama to be as good and our offense as bad. I knew the def would be greatly improved. Beating UF was a long shot just cus of their d and their qb. I thought ole miss would play much better the entire season.
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 1:10 pm to
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I am asking where do people who are as stupid as you come from? Based on the points made in the topic you are either stupid or didn't watch the season and are just making your arguments based on our record


Once again, you fail miserably at trying to rant about the topic at hand. Try again. That's you in your avatar isn't it?
Posted by jesterJ
Near the Northern Lights
Member since Nov 2009
892 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 1:15 pm to
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I'm on a touch. Sorry for the typo and your lack of intellect to realize what I was saying.


Their comment to you was to hide their own mistakes and flaws! These are the only real nega-taters? Fk 'em&feed'emfishheads
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 1:24 pm to
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Their comment to you was to hide their own mistakes and flaws! These are the only real nega-taters? Fk 'em&feed'emfishheads


Once again, another failed attempt to stay on topic...try again
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 1:29 pm to
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because of the way we lost to alabama and especially ole miss.

Yes, but the irony is, on one hand the officiating was largely blamed for the 'Bama loss while of course the coaches(and offensive players)drew the correctly-aimed ire of fans from the implosion in Oxford. One thing to realize is this. If the officiating had been fair and if PP,JJ &CS had not been injured, thus almost assuring a Tiger victory in Tuscaloosa, then the Ole Mrs debacle would have hurt even worse,by depriving LSU from the SEC title game and possibly a shot at the BCSNC. Myself, I picked them 10-2(and really they should have been) but all things considered I'm o.k. with 9-3. Now if they do get to 10-3, by virtue of defeating a Big Ten opponent, I'd say they took a big step up this season. A bowl-game loss(first of all would be a shock)would damper things a bit but still the overall view going into next season should be a positive one IMO.
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 1:47 pm to
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Now if they do get to 10-3, by virtue of defeating a Big Ten opponent, I'd say they took a big step up this season.


+1
Posted by cggeaxtigers
Southeastern, North America
Member since Jan 2008
3264 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 1:57 pm to
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because of the way we lost to alabama and especially ole miss.


this
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32456 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 2:18 pm to
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Why are we all in an uproar over finishing right where most of us figured we would finish?
Name a game other than Auburn or Tulame where the team looked good in all three phases and appeared to exhibit an LSU style of play.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32456 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 2:23 pm to
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And we STILL ended up 9-3
But if we play like that next year we won't be 9-3, we'll be much worse.
quote:

You play to win the game......
A very low standard to meet.
Posted by Ancientiger
WADE, MS
Member since Feb 2006
1214 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 2:41 pm to
Winning a bowl game against any Big10 team other than Ohio State is not a step up. Which of course, TigerWilson88, has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand! In other words, it's not "pertainent." What a hypocrite! GFY!
This post was edited on 12/1/09 at 2:45 pm
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16203 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 2:57 pm to
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Most fans have no problem with a loss if the other team played better than LSU


I find this hard to believe. I think no matter how we lose people are going to come up with SOMETHING to bitch about. If we give up too many points, it's the defense. If we don't score enough points, it's the offense. If the players don't play up to their potential or if the other team plays better, it's the coaching. It just might not be as epic as this year. I don't think there is such thing as a good loss for an LSU caliber team.

That being said, yes I believe the reason people are upset with the season is definitely how the games were lost.

ETA: the Ole Miss game was my only problem, but i'm pretty much over it
This post was edited on 12/1/09 at 3:00 pm
Posted by Rufio
Member since Nov 2009
103 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 3:20 pm to
Obviously you aren't getting it so I will lay it out for you.
1. Stop posting
2. Stop fricking posting
3. Slap your mother in the face
4. Kick your father in the nuts
5. Watch every game from this past year
6. Try to realize our talent level far exceeds the talent from the opposing teams.
7. Realize there is only one fricking reason we almost lost to several shitty teams, lost to Ole Miss and loss to Florida... Coaching.
8. Stop mother fricking posting.



Have you ever seen Hook? Are you 12?
This post was edited on 12/1/09 at 3:24 pm
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 3:22 pm to
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That being said, yes I believe the reason people are upset with the season is definitely how the games were lost.


Excellent point!

quote:

Winning a bowl game against any Big10 team other than Ohio State is not a step up. Which of course, TigerWilson88, has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand! In other words, it's not "pertainent." What a hypocrite! GFY!


Well you started off good, but then failed miserably. Sorry. Try again

Here's two tips for ya. First on being pertainent. Stay LSU related and not flaming the poster related and you'll have more credibility...Second Don't worry about spelling, the grammar school majors will correct it for ya.
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 3:26 pm to
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Obviously you aren't getting it so I will lay it out for you.
1. Stop posting - fail
2. Stop fricking posting - fail
3. Slap your mother in the face - fail
4. Kick your father in the nuts - fail
5. Watch every game from this past year - did
6. Try to realize our talent level far exceeds the talent from the opposing teams. - really? Are you saying our offensive and defensive lines are rated higher than Bama and Florida?
7. Realize there is only one fricking reason we almost lost to several shitty teams, lost to Ole Miss and loss to Florida... Coaching. - I agree with you, best post you've made yet and exactly what I was looking for.
8. Stop mother fricking posting. - Wrong again.


You're getting better! Once you hit puberty you are going to be a great rantard who actually makes sense most of the time! Just like Jarret Lee is going to be a great quarterback when he grows up!
This post was edited on 12/1/09 at 3:27 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89646 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 3:29 pm to
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Why are we all in an uproar over finishing right where most of us figured we would finish?


Mainly on the "how" of the Ole Miss game. I am getting over it, and I generally like and support Miles. I also typically defend "ugly" wins, but a loss like that is pretty tough to explain.

I thought we would go 9-3 in the regular season, lingering questions at QB, unproven OL (which turned in some iffy performances as a unit), and a revamped defense (which had a feast or famine type of season).

Special teams play could have been the difference in 9-3 and 10-2, but that was negated in the Ole Miss game by what is perceived (and I have to agree) to be "less than stellar" coaching.

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