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re: Saban built LSU from ground up?
Posted on 11/9/09 at 5:25 pm to Leonides
Posted on 11/9/09 at 5:25 pm to Leonides
During Saban's five seasons at LSU (2000-2004), he had 24 players that were selected in the NFL draft. Of these 24 players, 17 were already on the LSU roster before Saban ever coached a game as a Tiger.
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Posted on 11/9/09 at 5:31 pm to Geauxtiga
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During Saban's five seasons at LSU (2000-2004), he had 24 players that were selected in the NFL draft. Of these 24 players, 17 were already on the LSU roster before Saban ever coached a game as a Tiger.
So 17 out of 85.... now do what Les inherited
Posted on 11/9/09 at 5:43 pm to Leonides
The original poster left off Brandon Whiney, Norman Lejeune, and Louis Williams. There were actually 23 players that Saban inherited that played pro football. With those 23, he lost to UAB. Saban did alot of great things, but he inherited many good players. His worshipers hold Miles to a different standard.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 5:55 pm to Geaux Shaggy
quote:Why? No one is accusing Miles of building from the ground up.
So 17 out of 85.... now do what Les inherited
Posted on 11/9/09 at 5:58 pm to Geauxtiga
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Why? No one is accusing Miles of building from the ground up.
He didn't have to. Saban left the cupbaord full as shite and Miles needs to maintain it. He has done well with that, BUT Saban is THE better coach.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 6:23 pm to dukke v
quote:Dude, no spin zone here. Go back and read the OP. It's about whether Saban built LSU from the ground up. Most know that's not true. Capiche'?
He didn't have to. Saban left the cupbaord full as shite and Miles needs to maintain it. He has done well with that, BUT Saban is THE better coach.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 6:25 pm to Mmorsey
+1
Posted on 11/9/09 at 6:26 pm to Geauxtiga
Saban rose a sleeping giant.
7 losing seasons in 10 years before Saban. Countless goofballs as coaches. The early 90s had half full stadiums to start the game versus SEC opponents.
Saban built as ground up as you can for an SEC team.
7 losing seasons in 10 years before Saban. Countless goofballs as coaches. The early 90s had half full stadiums to start the game versus SEC opponents.
Saban built as ground up as you can for an SEC team.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 6:28 pm to Geauxtiga
If the OP is debating if Saban built LSU from ground up I thought Coates did. I mean LSU had been around for almost 100 years prior to Saban. So no the answer would be Saban did not build LSU from ground up. He took over a program that had been in decline for 10 years and turned it around.
Was there talent, sure but Saban too over a team that had lost 15 games in previous 2 seasons and won 8 his 1st season. Saban did build up the talent base of the entire program along with helping build better facilities.
Was there talent, sure but Saban too over a team that had lost 15 games in previous 2 seasons and won 8 his 1st season. Saban did build up the talent base of the entire program along with helping build better facilities.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 6:30 pm to sheek
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frick, you miles coolaid drinkers just cannot give up your hate for Saban. LSU has always had some decent talent, it just a matter of coaching them and Saban coached them and imo better than Miles.
Go be a fricking BAMA fan if you love tasting Sabans balls so much.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 6:33 pm to Geauxtiga
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Capiche'?
DIPSHIT!!!!
quote:
It's about whether Saban built LSU from the ground up.
It was about as close to the bottom as it could get. How's that?? CAPICHE'
Posted on 11/9/09 at 6:37 pm to Bobby Moore
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Saban lost his last two games at LSU....He SUCKED!!!!!!!!!
It's a good thing he isn't LSU's coach anymore...lucky for yall Bama's got him!
Posted on 11/9/09 at 6:39 pm to sheek
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Saban built LSU from ground up?
frick, you miles coolaid drinkers just cannot give up your hate for Saban. LSU has always had some decent talent, it just a matter of coaching them and Saban coached them and imo better than Miles.
+1
You people on this board that treat Les Miles like the second coming of Christ are an absolute joke. I have no opinion of Saban or Dinardo, because they aren't coaching the team I give a shite about(LSU). The bottom line is this, measuring a coach is very simple, what condition is the program when he/she arrives compared to present day or when they leave. Make your own opinion of any coach from that, but my personal belief is we were in heading in a better direction in '04 than we are now. Therefore, I believe Miles is average at best. This fan believes LSU deserves far better than average.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 6:53 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
I only have one thing to say..
Saban did one thing Les Miles has not done.
He walked away from LSU..
So for that
Frick Him !!!
If your not a Tiger your tiger bait
Saban did one thing Les Miles has not done.
He walked away from LSU..
So for that
Frick Him !!!
If your not a Tiger your tiger bait
Posted on 11/9/09 at 6:58 pm to Kajungee
quote:
Saban built LSU from ground up?
I only have one thing to say..
Saban did one thing Les Miles has not done.
He walked away from LSU..
So for that
Frick Him !!!
If your not a Tiger your tiger bait
Agreed
Posted on 11/9/09 at 7:05 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
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And those 2 games, Saban has had the luxury of a senior QB both times. That is something that Miles has not had
Sorry guys. Mcelroy is a redshirt junior and will be kicking yalls arse again next year.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 7:07 pm to Shady Grady
Saban is the best coach in the country, IMO.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 7:10 pm to Ninja Looter
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Sorry guys. Mcelroy is a redshirt junior and will be kicking yalls arse again next year.
And he is a Shula recruit.
Posted on 11/9/09 at 7:13 pm to dukke v
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He has done well with that, BUT Saban is THE better coach.
WHY does Miles have to be ashamed of being a little less of a coach than Saban...I mean...NAME me some who you think are better!!
Damn....I could go on for a while.....so what's the big deal??
Posted on 11/9/09 at 7:30 pm to LSUBlake8
Saban got us going again. Improved the facilities and brought expectations to a new level. His defenses were fun to watch. His offenses were hit and miss. His results(wins) were great ONE year, but the rest were mediocre based on what our expectations are for Miles present day.
Saban is an arse with poor character. His time at Bama will be short lived.
Administration officials, coaches, players and fans will get tired of his style and the magic will be gone. His style of coaching is great as long as you constantly win and ultimately win the MNC. As the pressure mounts due to his failure to get it done, the tide will start to turn on him. He will start lashing out at the fans.("Are you fans or supporters of the program.")
Players tolerate getting their arse chewed if they are awarded with a crystal ball. Administration officials walk on eggshells around him for only so long...
In the end, he leaves when he knows he is not welcome anymore..
You can only blame everyone else for your failures for a limited amount of time.
My bet is it occurs within 5 years.
Saban is an arse with poor character. His time at Bama will be short lived.
Administration officials, coaches, players and fans will get tired of his style and the magic will be gone. His style of coaching is great as long as you constantly win and ultimately win the MNC. As the pressure mounts due to his failure to get it done, the tide will start to turn on him. He will start lashing out at the fans.("Are you fans or supporters of the program.")
Players tolerate getting their arse chewed if they are awarded with a crystal ball. Administration officials walk on eggshells around him for only so long...
In the end, he leaves when he knows he is not welcome anymore..
You can only blame everyone else for your failures for a limited amount of time.
My bet is it occurs within 5 years.
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