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When you give up 3rd & 7, run into the kicker,

Posted on 11/8/09 at 7:22 am
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 11/8/09 at 7:22 am
...give up a field goal with the game onthe line, throw an interception on your next drive, and lose by nine, it wasn't because of one bad call by the officials. That isn't how math and football work.

We just got beat by just Alabama. Take it like men.
Posted by Spirit of Dunson
Member since Mar 2007
23111 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 7:24 am to
i can't blame the refs too much. We didn't have an answer for Ingram, and Lee wasn't going to lead us to victory without a consistent ground game.

However, the refs took that opportunity from us with the (non)interception call.
Posted by puttytat
BEACH
Member since Apr 2005
5374 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 7:26 am to
we were outcoached.......AGAIN!
Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
6881 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 7:46 am to
quote:

...give up a field goal with the game onthe line, throw an interception on your next drive, and lose by nine, it wasn't because of one bad call by the officials. That isn't how math and football work.

We just got beat by just Alabama. Take it like men.


So you are positive we would not have got points had we had the ball with 5 and 1/2 minutes at the 37?

The game could have easily been different.

But, we didn't help our case most of the night with dumbass penalties, etc.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32572 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 7:56 am to
Every single subject on this board is not an 'all or nothing proposition'. The refs PLAYED A PART IN THE LOSS. It doesn't have to be the SOLE reason, but is a reason. Poor play and execution, combined with injuries, also contributed.

The game was NOT LOST BY COACHING. Refs did contribute to the LOSS. How hard is that to comprehend?
This post was edited on 11/8/09 at 7:56 am
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
17798 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 8:06 am to
quote:

We just got beat by just Alabama. Take it like men.


It only takes one wrong move in a chess match to eventually lose the game.
Posted by specs1
Member since Dec 2005
10015 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 8:27 am to
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throw an interception on your next drive


Not even relevant when down by 9 w/ less than 3 minutes and no time outs.
Posted by sml71
Run if you hear banjos.
Member since Dec 2005
4328 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 8:30 am to
Whining about refs is the battle cry of losers.
Posted by tigerfan25
Northshore
Member since Jan 2005
500 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 8:53 am to
I'm not taking anything away from Bama. They did beat us yesterday. But, you can't ignore that a "big time" player made a "big time" play in one of the most significant games when his team needed it! The kid plain and simple made a "great" play! Not to mention Saban and his staff made a huge mistake thrwing on that 3rd down and Chavis and the defense called him on it! I know LSU committed alot of self-inflicted wounds, but that int. could have been a game-changing play and well couldve led to a W for the Tigers!!! Bama was lucky to get out of there with a W! Plain and simple!
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3434 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 9:06 am to
agreed... you forgot to add--> and go for 2 to make it 7 points instead of 6 despite the fact that Bama had only scored 1 TD, and have been struggling in the red area. Instead LSU missed the conversion, lose momentum, and are only up by 5 which changes the complexion of the game when Bama kicks the FG and are only down by 2.
Posted by Tigerwaffe
Orlando
Member since Sep 2007
4975 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 9:08 am to
quote:

When you give up 3rd & 7, run into the kicker,
...give up a field goal with the game onthe line, throw an interception on your next drive, and lose by nine, it wasn't because of one bad call by the officials. That isn't how math and football work.

We just got beat by just Alabama. Take it like men.

Well said.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
44102 posts
Posted on 11/8/09 at 9:19 am to
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That isn't how math and football work

That may not be how math works - but even math allows for the inclusion of dependent trials = hence the difference between calculating the odds for roulette and blackjack.

But football works exactly like that, unless you say that giving the other team the ball after three plays or overturning all of their good plays is 'just part of the game' and should be viewed only in the context of the final score.

Hell, even the third play of the game influenced the entire game. We get first down that we definitely earned, and we have a sustained drive - for at least three more plays - and who know what may happen?

But no, we go three and out in a hostile environment and the rest of the first half is played on terms as though we had kicked off instead of receiving.

You wouldn't contend that it would be a fair game if one team got to receive both halves would you??

same thing here - the refs took away our first possession. different game from there on.

that was just the first - many more came thruout the game.

Like playing blackjack with half the tens taken out of the deck. The dealer has an advantage in the best of conditions, but careful play can minimize the advantage and give you a CHANCE to win.

Take away the tens, and the player has NO chance - just a matter of time until all his money is gone.

We may have lost with perfect officiating - we may have won. If we play a dozen times with perfect officiatiing, Bama may win more than we do.

BUT - that is why we play the game - to see who can win TODAY.

And yesterday was not a fair chance.

Sure we COULD have won.

Like you can draw a blackjack if there is only ONE ten left in the deck - not a good way to play the game tho.
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