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re: question about the Golden Band

Posted on 10/14/09 at 11:48 pm to
Posted by TigerBandMan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2007
1287 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 11:48 pm to
Here's the answer and its probably not the one you want to hear.

Believe it or not, playing songs that people love are very boring sometimes. It takes a lot of different parts functioning as one to make the final product, and many times, the individual parts would bore anyone to tears. Once a year, the Tiger Band does a latin show because it gives every single instrument a chance to play a really fun and challenging piece. It is a show by the band, for the band. Not to mention that even though no one really cares, bands try to show each other up at every game. There is a reason the band plays those power chords before every single game. It is a warm up, but do you think that is really necessary? Its not like we haven't been playing all day.

The band gives its 120% every single game, and once a year, we get the opportunity to play stuff we have a lot of fun playing. Come to a practice and listen to the complexity of whats going on and you might have more appreciation for what it is.

Don't worry, next week its back to Van Halen
Posted by LSUFAN1221
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
275 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 12:00 am to

Love tiger band!!!!
Posted by bayoubengal11
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
297 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 12:09 am to
One question I do have is Why in the Hell does the band decide it's a good idea to play "Living on a Prayer" at every friggin' game. LSU football shouldn't have to be living on a dang prayer, but as the band continues to play it, we continue on a path of having to pray harder and harder every game.
Posted by LikeKnightsofOld
Member since Sep 2009
1310 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 12:24 am to
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One question I do have is Why in the Hell does the band decide it's a good idea to play "Living on a Prayer" at every friggin' game. LSU football shouldn't have to be living on a dang prayer, but as the band continues to play it, we continue on a path of having to pray harder and harder every game.

Posted by ConchTiger
Puerto de Santa Maria, Florida
Member since Nov 2006
138 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 12:30 am to
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why do we always preform some sort of "Latin Flare"

Latin Flair a la Castro Carazo, read below and be proud of TGBFTL's heritage.

Huey Long had a plan was to make LSU one of the country's greatest universities and this included making the band "second to none." In an LSU oral history "I've Got a University: Huey Long and LSU's Golden Years,” Mary Hebert recalls “...improving the university became one of his pet projects. It was not LSU's academic standing, however, that first attracted his attention-it was the band...The governor then demanded that the band be enlarged from twenty-eight to one hundred-twenty-five pieces...one of the largest in the country.”

However, Long felt he needed a new band director to advance his plans. In 1934 Long attended a show at the famed Blue Room of the Roosevelt Hotel in New Orleans featuring jazz dance orchestra leader Castro Carazo and sent a bodyguard to bring the Costa-Rican born celebrity to his table. “Huey said ‘You are now the band leader at LSU, come with me, we're returning to LSU."

Long took a personal interest in the LSU Band in the early 1930's and major changes began to take place that set the band on a unique course toward national prominence. Long's plan was to make LSU one of the country's greatest universities. This included making the band "second to none."

In addition to importing Castro Carazo (Latin orchestra leader at the Roosevelt Hotel in New Orleans), as the new bandmaster in 1934, Long supervised many aspects of the band's image and life. He saw to it that the football band traded in its military dress for a more showy stadium look. It was Long who introduced the LSU bands to its current colors, purple and gold. Thanks to Long’s determination to have the biggest and the best in the land, the band soon numbered nearly 250 and was indeed one of the country’s largest.

As intent on showmanship as he was size, Long encouraged the football band to become more dazzling. Halftime shows soon won LSU the nickname "The Show Band of the South."

Long and Carazo were responsible for transforming the LSU Tiger Marching Band from a military band to a show band with its own style, and as such provided the basis for all of the achievements that would follow.
Posted by southeastBoot
Member since Jan 2008
604 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 12:41 am to
You can tell who has family/friends in the band in this thread.

I always enjoy hearing the bands play, though. I love it when I'm walking across the SLU campus and can hear "The Pride of the Southland" practicing.
This post was edited on 10/15/09 at 12:42 am
Posted by DaStweets
Kenner/Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
1567 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 12:47 am to
we worked on that show for almost 3 weeks....took a lot of effort. the van halen show will be cool
Posted by LikeKnightsofOld
Member since Sep 2009
1310 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 1:00 am to
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we worked on that show for almost 3 weeks....took a lot of effort.

The lines still looked like shite. At least it sounded good.
Posted by LSUTigahBait
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2009
1052 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 1:10 am to
Here's some interesting facts about TGBFTL that you probably don't know.

There are 325 members (Thats how many $1000 stipends are given by TAF)

That number includes 14 GGs, the Colorguard and the Drum Major, Drumline and wind players.

There are 4 Managers who do all the behind scenes work for the band.

Tiger Band is a class that you have to try out to be in. It is on of the only collegiate bands that turns people away annually. (very selective)

Tiger band is a 1 hour credit towards your arts elective.

Tiger band takes a minimum of 14-15 hours a week (not including away trips) - Yeah... look at the work/credit ratio.

Only around 20% of Tiger Band members are music majors. - For the quality program we have, most people believe that our band is around 80-90% music majors. Not true at all.

This is Frank Wickes last year as Director of Bands.
Frank Wickes used to be the director at the university of Florida
Frank Wickes is a top notch Saxophone instructor.

Almost every SEC band staff is represented by a graduate of LSU's Band masters program.

EVERY NATIONAL COMPETITION EVER HOSTED FOR COLLEGE MARCHING BANDS HAS BEEN WON BY LSU.
This includes the Chevrolet competition in the 1980's, The sudler trophy, ESPN battle of the bands, and every Saturday in Tiger Stadium.

TGBFTL is the ONLY Collegiate Marching band to be inducted into a music hall of fame.

Every time a drunk student steals a rain-jacket from the stands during a game, someone in the band has to fork over $100 to pay for it.

The Tiger Band learns 3 new songs and about 40 "sets" (set positions on a field for a halftime show) in 8 hours before each game.

There are over 45 songs in TGBFTL playlist on any given Saturday.


The band enjoy's playing the OH-EH-OH Chant and would very much appreciate it if the students didn't get it thrown out.

- This goes for Hey Baby too. And yes, most of us do find "you suck" creative, we are just slightly more mature then your average student and can see the big picture.

Thats all for now. Anything else you want just ask.



Posted by TigerBandAlumnus82
Pensacola,FL
Member since Jul 2007
3104 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 1:11 am to
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keep the latin stuff for the band competitions

There aren't any competitions for college bands like there are in high school. There's not even any kind of competition for the yearly Sudler Trophy. I'd really like to see an SEC marching band competition the week after the last playing date. Have it in the Georgia Dome with scoring and DCI judges........
Posted by TigerBandAlumnus82
Pensacola,FL
Member since Jul 2007
3104 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 1:30 am to
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It was Long who introduced the LSU bands to its current colors, purple and gold.

Tiger Band hasn't worn any shade of purple pants or jackets. (At least not since the mid/late 60's) Any gold in the uniform has been a kind of Old Gold-Orange hybrid color too. (Not the Canary Yellow that all the LSU athletic teams wear)

TGBFTL = Dark Navy Blue and Old Gold/Orange hybrid.......
Posted by LikeKnightsofOld
Member since Sep 2009
1310 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 1:31 am to
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Dark Navy Blue

It's a long raging debate, but it's purple.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51954 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 2:24 am to
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So many people are so simple minded that the only way the band will entertain them is if they play popular movie themes or form a cool shape on the field.


Yes because there are ONLY two options out there: Movie themes and cool shapes, or latin music.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51954 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 2:31 am to
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The Tiger Band learns 3 new songs and about 40 "sets" (set positions on a field for a halftime show) in 8 hours before each game.


That's fairly stupid.

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Tiger band takes a minimum of 14-15 hours a week (not including away trips) - Yeah... look at the work/credit ratio.


Yeah, but most classes don't pay for you attending. Ease up on the whole TIGERBAND IS SO frickING HARD angle. We realize it isn't easy, and we appreciate the work. But at the end of the day, you weren't forced into participating.
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This goes for Hey Baby too. And yes, most of us do find "you suck" creative, we are just slightly more mature then your average student and can see the big picture.


And what is that? That the students need to do what they are fricking told or we'll blackmail you? "You suck" is so absurdly mild and relatively mature that I find it humorous that they go after it so fiercely.

I understand axing the a-hole chant and making a bit about the Hey Baby...but come the frick on.
This post was edited on 10/15/09 at 2:35 am
Posted by LSUTigahBait
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2009
1052 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 2:57 am to
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The Tiger Band learns 3 new songs and about 40 "sets" (set positions on a field for a halftime show) in 8 hours before each game.
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That's fairly stupid.

Yep... you are so right. How about the band doesn't learn anything new and just does the same thing over and over. Everyone on here bitches about the football teams offense as it is, don't need the band keying in on that note.

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Tiger band takes a minimum of 14-15 hours a week (not including away trips) - Yeah... look at the work/credit ratio.

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Yeah, but most classes don't pay for you attending. Ease up on the whole TIGERBAND IS SO frickING HARD angle. We realize it isn't easy, and we appreciate the work. But at the end of the day, you weren't forced into participating.


Not saying it is hard, or that anyone was forced into participation. Everyone wants to be there and we all enjoy it. While classes "don't pay you for attending", you obviously don't realize how hard it is to hold a job when you have a class that takes up that much time. I was just pointing out that band members only get 1 hour of credit to every 14 hours of work. Imagine scheduling 30 hours a semester and still taking 4 years to graduate!

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This goes for Hey Baby too. And yes, most of us do find "you suck" creative, we are just slightly more mature then your average student and can see the big picture.

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And what is that? That the students need to do what they are fricking told or we'll blackmail you? "You suck" is so absurdly mild and relatively mature that I find it humorous that they go after it so fiercely.

I understand axing the a-hole chant and making a bit about the Hey Baby...but come the frick on.



Don't make the band out as the big bad wolf in this situation, it started and will end with the students. In the 1990's a tuba player named "Tim" (who now works for the university) started the O-e-O chant during a game. "You-suck" was not a part of it. No one is saying that those lyrics are necessarily "obscene". The whole point of my post was to point out the prestige of the band. No matter which way you look at it, when the student section does the O-e-O chant it is being led by the band. When everyone says "tigers" or nothing at all, then there is no problem. Leading an obscene chant is just out of character. Could you see the catholic church leading a push for mass abortions? No. That is a little overboard but its the same thing. The university and the band most of all do not want to be pointed at for obscenities yelled by students. It might not seem like a big deal but in todays world you can't even say "Obama" without being called racist. We love the chant for what it is, and the "you suck" addition has only been around for 2.5 years. I don't see how you can throw away 20 years of a tradition just because you refuse to leave select lyrics (that were not only just added but also caused the song to be cut out for almost an entire season) out of it.

This post was edited on 10/15/09 at 3:00 am
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69359 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 3:23 am to
Some times band doesnt matter, but when LSU plays teams they usually dont... The band usually sets the crowd up. I find this true in bowl games also. Our band has usually blown our bowl opponents band out the water. Not sure its always like this, but the only bowl game i have not been to since 03 was the loss to Iowa in Orlando.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51954 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 3:44 am to
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Yep... you are so right. How about the band doesn't learn anything new and just does the same thing over and over.


Wow, totally missed the point.

So it is either learn something 8 hours prior to using it or not at all?

Because that is what I am getting from the your post...and personally I find that hard to believe.

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I was just pointing out that band members only get 1 hour of credit to every 14 hours of work. Imagine scheduling 30 hours a semester and still taking 4 years to graduate!


Fair enough. Although I will say you are being overly dramatic with your metaphor. Unless I am mistaken, that 14 hours a week is a lot of your practice time as well.

While it isn't quite as bad as 1 hour of credit, a lot of the 3 hour lab courses are of comparable difficulty....mini 8 hours of course work a week with weekly paper writing (often times 5+ pages) and having to worry about quizzes, exams, and graded homework. The reason why 30 hours would be pretty much impossible to do isn't because of the time in class, but because of all of the extra time you would need to study.

How are you guys tested? And how much time is it to prepare for it? If it isn't that bad, then basically it would be analogous to taking 15 hour semester and then just sitting in on some other classes for the hell of it.
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Don't make the band out as the big bad wolf in this situation


I'm not.

It was a simple statement of what is. Tell me where any of my statements was wrong. If you don't like the connotation associated with stating those facts...
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The whole point of my post was to point out the prestige of the band.


Yeah, I got that...and it was one of the reasons why I made that last comment.

"OH WE ARE MORE MATURE AND FAR SIGHTED COMPARED TO YOU STUDENTS."

Tigerband is awesome and the majority of your post was interesting and I was glad to read it. I only made comments to what I had exception to.
This post was edited on 10/15/09 at 3:45 am
Posted by lsu0005
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
2266 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 7:06 am to
been in the band along time, and was in athletics a long time. We ( THE BAND) are there for 2 things, to represent LSU and lead/ entertain the fans during the boring parts of the game. We do only practice 8 hrs for 1 show typically and we do that so we dont play the same show every week. Sometimes we play a latin show as our show off show, you cant really show your dominance over another program (florida) by playing 80s music hits. Like i said we are there to represent LSU in the best way possible and if you find the shows boring well thats fine even in only one fan likes it we will still perform to the best of our ability. Its marching band you are complaining about most of the BAND is there to get into football games...see the issue here.
Are the people in the program extremely prideful and passionate ( about lsu, the band program, and lsu sports) yes and we have every right to be. Spots in the program are always given and it is an honor to represent LSU every week, because there are kids that try out for four years and never make cuts. It is sad that i hear more compliments from every other school in the nation about how good we are, yet LSU fans dont recognize what they have sometimes. Just remember we are all there for one thing, LSU.
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