re: Ok I have seen enough....

And you think that USC beats teams that they should? LSU Beat the team that USC lost too this year. LSU held the number 1 offense in the country to 13 points. They lost but they were playing the defending national champions. You lost your credibility by mentioning lesser programs. Coach Carrol might have more talent to work with than Fla. or LSU, and his teams consistantly get beaten year in and year out by lesser opponents.

Solid assessment. And I too believe that if Saban was at the helm...we would be a better team. Not that Saban is a *better* man than Les...just a better coach. (and I don't know why ).

I'm still hopeful...with the D getting better every game, that Crowton will get the drift, and have a heart to heart with Les. They have got to open up the field with Shepard (NOT AT QB...he aint ready)...with an option to get to the outsied and pass. Damn shame. We could have won that game.

RC

LSU could not have won that game without either a better OL or winning the turnover battle with a multiple turnover margin. LSU got dominated along the LOS when on offense and didn't penetrate the LOS enough on defense. LSU was clearly outplayed and Shepard would have made 0 difference at his stage of development.

As far as little Nicky being such a great coach, again it is Exactly how great was little Nicky in the Sugar Bowl when a double digit underdog Utah team wiped the Superdome floor with the dwarf. And how good was little Nicky his first season when ULM beat him when he had far superior talent than ULM. And of course I could bring up UAB at LSU, Oregon State lucky win at LSU, the Blue Grass Miracle "win", the Iowa debacle, the Arkansas debacle where Heisman Matt Jones threw 2 TD passes in the last 8 minutes to beat LSU.

little Nicky a better coach than Les Miles...I don't think so.

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We will still control our own destiny in the SEC title race and national title race into November, FWIW

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You really think we will beat Auburn?

When was the last time that USC played an SEC schedule without a veteran QB? They will lose again this year. Book it. Let them play Florida or Alabama.

Not jealous rage, just facts. The fact is that Les Miles has recruited BETTER than little Nicky when factoring in guys who made it to LSU. And no, I don't give little Nicky credit for signing players who either never made it into school or never played one single down as a Tiger due to leaving school. And once again, little Nicky has quite the pattern of losing to lower ranked teams.

Thanks... Good read

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while the offensive line has graded out well below average you cannot consistantly block 7, 8, and 9 man fronts. Defenses know that LSU cant or wont strech the field vertically so there is no penalty for stacking the line of scrimmage. Even if they are unsuccessful at throwing deep it still must be attempted from time to time to make the defense defend it and back of the running game.

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I have been saying the same thing for weeks now. I don't think JJ has any confidence throwing the ball down the field and the coaches know he just can't do it. So they don't even try to

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I have been a long time lurker and just never felt the need to join the discussion but now a few things need to be said...

1. To all the people that think there is a new generation of "spoiled" LSU fans since 2003 I think that is a complete farse. Back in the late 80's and 90's and early 2000, I as well as most LSU fans were happy with 8-3, 9-2 type seasons cause at that time LSU could not match the talent of the Florida St., Miami, Florida, Nebraska's etc. of the college football world. Nick Saban was able to turn that around with superior recruiting and elevate LSU's talent level to that of the elite of college football. So now its not unrealistic or unreasonable or being "spoiled" to expect LSU to compete for championships year in and year out when their talent level is equal to or exceeds any team they play. Is it wrong to be aggravated watching such a talented team underachieve? This can only be attributed to coaching. Florida, Alabama, Ohio St., USC, Texas, etc can consistantly be in the title discussion no reason we shouldnt.

2. there is this ongoing debate as to why the offense has been offensive thus far. some think offensive line, others quarterback and others play calling. Its is a combination of all 3. while the offensive line has graded out well below average you cannot consistantly block 7, 8, and 9 man fronts. Defenses know that LSU cant or wont strech the field vertically so there is no penalty for stacking the line of scrimmage. Even if they are unsuccessful at throwing deep it still must be attempted from time to time to make the defense defend it and back of the running game. Which leads to poor play calling. The offense can only run what is called so it is up to whomever may be calling the plays (at this point it looks like a 10 year old on Xbox) to be more creative and diverse rather than running the same basic plays over and over. If i can look at the formation and guess the play call I know defensive coordinators can. As far as quarterbacks I am really not an advocate of Jefferson or Lee. I think neither has excelled when given the opportunity. I do believe that Lee should at least be given another look. What plagued him was poor decision making, which usually improves from year to year with guys that start as freshman. He has all the tools and should be given another chance to see if his decision making has improved. Jefferson does not make the mistakes Lee made but also does not move the offense with any consistancy at all. Lee moved the offense but just gave back too many of the points we scored. Some quarterbacks just never "get it" and maybe thats the case with Lee but we will never know unless he is given another shot. Not to mention it may do Jefferson some good to sit out a couple of series and see from the sidelines what he is not seeing on the field and then go back an apply what he saw back to the field. At this point it certainly would not hurt.


alright then. needed to vent and now I feel much better. Im sure ill get flamed beings as its my first post which means im an idiot and have no clue and just saw my first ever college football game this past weekend but its cool ill sit back and enjoy

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Nothing to be flamed about. You are absolutely correct. This is a football program on a negative trend. In my view, Miles is not capable of maintaining an elite program. Under his direction, we are looking at 3-4 loss seasons and postseasons full of Peach, Cotton and Chik-fil-a type bowls. The only question I have is how bad will it have to get before the plug is pulled.