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Greatest college QB of all-time?

Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:01 pm
Posted by SageStLaurent
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Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:01 pm
Who is it?
Posted by wizziko
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Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:02 pm to
Reggie frickING Ball
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:05 pm to
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Who is it?


Tommie Frazier.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:08 pm to
Vince Young = Tommie Frazier with an arm
Posted by ChalmetteChampion
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Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:11 pm to
Daniel Carl Wuerffel
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:11 pm to
of my lifetime, my top 5:

1. charlie ward
2. leinart
3. frazier
4. tebow
5. wuerffel

hon mention: vick, vince young, peyton manning
This post was edited on 10/2/09 at 8:13 pm
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:17 pm to
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Vince Young = Tommie Frazier with an arm


Who was more successful? Future potential means nothing. Frazier's record is really hard to beat. Wins versus loses is all that matters.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:19 pm to
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Wins versus loses is all that matters.

who is discussing best teams of all time?
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:20 pm to
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Wins versus loses is all that matters


Then whoever QBed Oklahoma during their 47 game unbeaten streak
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:23 pm to
well it's not like UT didn't win under vince

1 loss his junior and sophomore year
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:24 pm to
Vicne Young was 30-2 as a starter


not like it isnt comparable


eta: Frazier was 33-3



W/L according to wiki*
This post was edited on 10/2/09 at 8:27 pm
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:27 pm to
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who is discussing best teams of all time?


QB's are measured on win/lose ratios. Who is better than Frazier? Someone probably is, but I don't know who it is.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:27 pm to
Young 30-2

Frazier 33-3
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:32 pm to
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QB's are measured on win/lose ratios.

by those who don't use logic

TEAMS are measured in W/L

quote:

Who is better than Frazier?

in terms of W/L?

matt leinart likely wins this

2 losses from 2003-2005, 1 AP title, 1 unanimous title, and a last second loss in the next title game (to vince young)
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:42 pm to
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Lester Earl


According to my own criteria Young is the best. Thanks for your insight.
Posted by DBG
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Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:44 pm to
chance mock > vince young for half of his career

and i think its tough to label one guy as the best QB ever, since CFB has so many different styles

best pure pro-style QB: peyton manning

best running QB: pat white...or charlie ward or tommie frazier

best duel threat: vince young or tim tebow

best spread, run and shoot QB: danny wuerfell
This post was edited on 10/2/09 at 8:47 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:53 pm to
charlie ward was more of a dual threat...more passer than runner

Posted by DBG
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Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:56 pm to
ok, i was younger and didnt see him play much
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
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Posted on 10/2/09 at 9:00 pm to
Who is the only QB to throw for 3,000 yards & run for 2,000 yards in one season? Vince

Vince beat the "GREATEST TEAM OF ALL TIME" pretty much by himself.

Better completion % and passer rating than Leinart their final year for the guy who voted for Leinart.

Just an FYI for a candidate yet to be mentioned.......Colt McCoy will finish this season as the Div 1 (FBS) QB with the most wins ever and he already broke Culpepper's record for completion % in a season (in a season when everyone knew Texas would throw - in fact, Colt led the team in rushing that year).
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
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Posted on 10/2/09 at 9:01 pm to
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best duel threat: vince young or tim tebow


When Tebow can lead his team to an undefeated season, then he can enter the conversation.
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