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Greatest college QB of all-time?
Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:01 pm
Who is it?
Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:05 pm to SageStLaurent
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Who is it?
Tommie Frazier.
Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:08 pm to glassman
Vince Young = Tommie Frazier with an arm
Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:11 pm to SageStLaurent
of my lifetime, my top 5:
1. charlie ward
2. leinart
3. frazier
4. tebow
5. wuerffel
hon mention: vick, vince young, peyton manning
1. charlie ward
2. leinart
3. frazier
4. tebow
5. wuerffel
hon mention: vick, vince young, peyton manning
This post was edited on 10/2/09 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Vince Young = Tommie Frazier with an arm
Who was more successful? Future potential means nothing. Frazier's record is really hard to beat. Wins versus loses is all that matters.
Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:19 pm to glassman
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Wins versus loses is all that matters.
who is discussing best teams of all time?
Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:20 pm to glassman
quote:
Wins versus loses is all that matters
Then whoever QBed Oklahoma during their 47 game unbeaten streak
Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:23 pm to Kafka
well it's not like UT didn't win under vince
1 loss his junior and sophomore year
1 loss his junior and sophomore year
Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:24 pm to glassman
Vicne Young was 30-2 as a starter
not like it isnt comparable
eta: Frazier was 33-3
W/L according to wiki*
not like it isnt comparable
eta: Frazier was 33-3
W/L according to wiki*
This post was edited on 10/2/09 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
who is discussing best teams of all time?
QB's are measured on win/lose ratios. Who is better than Frazier? Someone probably is, but I don't know who it is.
Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:32 pm to glassman
quote:
QB's are measured on win/lose ratios.
by those who don't use logic
TEAMS are measured in W/L
quote:
Who is better than Frazier?
in terms of W/L?
matt leinart likely wins this
2 losses from 2003-2005, 1 AP title, 1 unanimous title, and a last second loss in the next title game (to vince young)
Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:42 pm to Lester Earl
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Lester Earl
According to my own criteria Young is the best. Thanks for your insight.
Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
chance mock > vince young for half of his career
and i think its tough to label one guy as the best QB ever, since CFB has so many different styles
best pure pro-style QB: peyton manning
best running QB: pat white...or charlie ward or tommie frazier
best duel threat: vince young or tim tebow
best spread, run and shoot QB: danny wuerfell
and i think its tough to label one guy as the best QB ever, since CFB has so many different styles
best pure pro-style QB: peyton manning
best running QB: pat white...or charlie ward or tommie frazier
best duel threat: vince young or tim tebow
best spread, run and shoot QB: danny wuerfell
This post was edited on 10/2/09 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:53 pm to DBG
charlie ward was more of a dual threat...more passer than runner
Posted on 10/2/09 at 8:56 pm to Lester Earl
ok, i was younger and didnt see him play much
Posted on 10/2/09 at 9:00 pm to Lester Earl
Who is the only QB to throw for 3,000 yards & run for 2,000 yards in one season? Vince
Vince beat the "GREATEST TEAM OF ALL TIME" pretty much by himself.
Better completion % and passer rating than Leinart their final year for the guy who voted for Leinart.
Just an FYI for a candidate yet to be mentioned.......Colt McCoy will finish this season as the Div 1 (FBS) QB with the most wins ever and he already broke Culpepper's record for completion % in a season (in a season when everyone knew Texas would throw - in fact, Colt led the team in rushing that year).
Vince beat the "GREATEST TEAM OF ALL TIME" pretty much by himself.
Better completion % and passer rating than Leinart their final year for the guy who voted for Leinart.
Just an FYI for a candidate yet to be mentioned.......Colt McCoy will finish this season as the Div 1 (FBS) QB with the most wins ever and he already broke Culpepper's record for completion % in a season (in a season when everyone knew Texas would throw - in fact, Colt led the team in rushing that year).
Posted on 10/2/09 at 9:01 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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best duel threat: vince young or tim tebow
When Tebow can lead his team to an undefeated season, then he can enter the conversation.
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