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Day Trading

Posted on 9/14/09 at 6:46 pm
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31326 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 6:46 pm
Any of you MT gurus into this on a daily basis? I am trying to learn more about it. What's a good starting investment along with dos and donts?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133532 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 6:50 pm to
quote:

Any of you MT gurus into this on a daily basis?
Yes, I average about 4 trades (buy or sell) a week. I really can't give you any advice other than if a trade is going bad, get out quick.
Posted by Rivers
Florida
Member since Nov 2008
3256 posts
Posted on 9/14/09 at 9:19 pm to
I would keep in mind that the Fed has said that they are going to end QE (quantative easing, or printing money backed by nothing) very soon. With that in mind you should read this article from Zero Hedge...and remember, no individual is as fast entering or exiting markets as money center bank high speed trading systems.

'The chart below requires no substantial commentary suffice it to say that since the launch of the Fed's Quantitative Easing, aka Monetization, program, the value of the Total Securities Held Outright on the Fed's Balance Sheet has increased by $917 billion- from $584 billion to $1.5 trillion. This has been accompanied by an almost linear increase in the S&P 500 Index, from 721 at QE announcement on March 18 to 1033 yesterday. This $917 billion in extra liquidity, instead of igniting an inflationary spark, as the QE program was designed to do, is now (metaphorically) sloshing around bank basements. As a reminder: the most recent reading of Total Deposit Reserves was... $886 billion dollars: An almost dollar for dollar match with the increase in Securities Held Outright of $917 billion. And instead of this excess money hitting broader aggregates such as M2 or MZM, it is held by the banks, who proceed to buy securities outright on their own, either Treasuries or Equities. Apply the proper "money multiplier" to get the monetary impact on the S&P 500, as a result of the banks not lending these excess reserves, and instead simply speculating with it, and you will likely get the increase in the market cap of the S&P since the launch of QE.'

...chart at link... LINK

Market timing is a fool's game rigged for those with access to first information
This post was edited on 9/15/09 at 9:22 am
Posted by threesheets
Member since Oct 2007
423 posts
Posted on 9/15/09 at 1:03 pm to
Read everything Toni Turner has written starting with this:

LINK
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 9/15/09 at 6:30 pm to
I do not, for the simple reason that the world's largest banks throw billions of dollars at pursuing this endeavor, I am very unlikely to do any better.

I would advise that if you believe day trading to be a valid strategy, find a day trading fund. They're out there, and they pay a lot less to trade than you will.

If you want to do it yourself for entertainment, fine. You are paying for the privilege but hell, I spent this past Saturday watching LSU play Vanderbilt so I can't criticize. Just don't expect to get rich doing this.
Posted by Rivers
Florida
Member since Nov 2008
3256 posts
Posted on 9/15/09 at 6:59 pm to
Excellent advice...

btw...watched the game also. I thought the sloppy field hurt LSU by slowing them down a tad.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133532 posts
Posted on 9/15/09 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

Just don't expect to get rich doing this.


I agree day trading is not for everyone. But I don't necessarily agree that your statement applies to everyone, even retail traders like me.

Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 9/15/09 at 7:55 pm to
A person needs to commit a decent amount of capital (like you probably do), otherwise your returns just get obliterated by transaction costs.
Posted by LSUownsSEC
OutOfTheArea
Member since May 2008
3178 posts
Posted on 9/15/09 at 10:03 pm to
It has gotten increasingly difficult over the last couple of years. Shorting stocks was a good way to earn extra cash at one time. The more cash that you have on the side, the more chances you can take but IMHO, always be conservative and don't ride a stock down low for long.
If you can learn T&A, that helps!
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