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"Storm never had committable offer"

Posted on 8/8/09 at 5:42 pm
Posted by CFBFAN1121
Abbottabad, Pakistan
Member since Sep 2006
4174 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 5:42 pm
I realize lsu fans gotta say this to make it seem like this is all storm's fault but I have a question.

Storm announced to the world that he would personally commit to miles on his bday weeks beforehand. If lsu knew he didn't have a CO and they knew they wouldn't accept it. why let him come to lsu to commit ?

they could of saved this kid heartbreak and embarrassment had they just told him the truth.

imo, they accepted his commitment, they just didn't want lache to know about it,which would only mean they weren't being upfront with lache too.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 5:45 pm to
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imo, they accepted his commitment, they just didn't want lache to know about it,which would only mean they weren't being upfront with lache too.


why would they allow spencer ware to publicly commit then? i really don't understand what you're getting at here. from the way this all played out and his father's quotes, it's pretty obvious that storm really didn't have a true "committable offer". it actually seems like a pretty shitty situation IMO
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
38432 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 5:49 pm to
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imo, they accepted his commitment, they just didn't want lache to know about it,which would only mean they weren't being upfront with lache too.



imo you should stop being such a pussy
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 5:50 pm to
WTF is difference between an offer and a "committable offer"

I never heard that term used anywhere but here.
Posted by CFBFAN1121
Abbottabad, Pakistan
Member since Sep 2006
4174 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 5:52 pm to
ok fine he didn't have CO. lsu staff knew of storms plans before he even left for BR. they could of told him he didn't have a solid offer but they didn't . they let the family drive 14 hours only to tell him the wouldn't accept his commitment . . . on his bday.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24982 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 5:52 pm to
This is the most over-talked about topic on this board.

I've answered/explained this enough already--if you want an explanation then look through my posts.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
38432 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 5:53 pm to
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WTF is difference between an offer and a "committable offer"

I never heard that term used anywhere but here.



every year teams offer way more guys than they can take. All offers aren't created equal. Some guys will be able to commit at any time, while some guys have offers that are contigent on either commiting right away or the decision of other guys.

I've never heard the term "comitable offer" used anywhere but here, but the principle applies to every schools pretty much
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 5:56 pm to
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ok fine he didn't have CO. lsu staff knew of storms plans before he even left for BR. they could of told him he didn't have a solid offer but they didn't . they let the family drive 14 hours only to tell him the wouldn't accept his commitment . . . on his bday.



what do you think happened? it's pretty obvious that storm and his family feel like they were burned by LSU, at least from the quotes i've seen
Posted by Scandalous
Narnia
Member since Aug 2009
198 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:01 pm to
please make it stop!!!!!!
Posted by CFBFAN1121
Abbottabad, Pakistan
Member since Sep 2006
4174 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:03 pm to
imo they were slow playing him til lache made his decision. if lache committed elsewhere they woulda accepted storm wit open arms. had lache went to lsu,they woulda kicked storm to the curb.

that's recruiting don't get me wrong,but some here are blaming the kid and not lsu and the game of recruiting imo
Posted by Sammich
Member since Apr 2004
9375 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:05 pm to
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i really don't understand what you're getting at here.


He's looking for a "New" way to blame Les Miles for something. Obviously there was some interest there, though hard to gauge how much by LSU. Amazing so many on this board have no clue how many hotshot High School players want to be the Starting tailback at LSU. Maybe Storm wanted a gaurantee that he would start. Maybe he said something in the meetings that gave the coaches pause in offering him a scholarship. Maybe his Father was overbearing. Maybe the coaches & Storm simply did not mesh. The list goes on.

This board does not know what happened, neither do the $9 paysites. They hear 1 side of any recruiting story. They are in the business of selling drama.
This post was edited on 8/8/09 at 6:06 pm
Posted by Carolinacajun
Davidson County Jail
Member since Oct 2003
12034 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:09 pm to
You assumed an awful lot. Then project even more.Guess at intentions. And generalise that "LSU fans" gotta blame Storm. Which in the end means IYO means nothing.Why did you post?
Posted by horndog
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Member since Apr 2007
11789 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:12 pm to
CFBFAN, the thread that you were all over yesterday was about this very subject. Why start a new post on the same subject? Are you taking this personal?
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:12 pm to
You sure do assume a lot.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85468 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:13 pm to
lynx i looked through your posts and couldn't find where you explained the situation... little help would be appreciated
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24982 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:14 pm to
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lynx i looked through your posts and couldn't find where you explained the situation... little help would be appreciated



I'll go try to find it...give me a few.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85468 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:18 pm to
yeah cus i see all this bs on here, but ive looked through six pages of posts and majority of it is frat q&a so i gave up haha

and i still hoped we would be getting storm and lache
This post was edited on 8/8/09 at 6:20 pm
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24477 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:21 pm to
Just stop already.

Your way off base and getting further away with every post.

Auburn will get a great back this year, it just won't be Seastrunk, and it never was going to be him. He still has a greater chance to end up at Texas than Auburn.

As far as Storm Johnson is concerned, Spencer Ware probably has more to do with that situation than Seastrunk.

LSU is not above playing the same games all of the other elite programs do, and after the Jackson and Benton situations from last season, you can't hardly blame them.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:24 pm to
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but ive looked through six pages of posts and majority of it is frat q&a so i gave up haha


Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24982 posts
Posted on 8/8/09 at 6:28 pm to
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yeah cus i see all this bs on here, but ive looked through six pages of posts and majority of it is frat q&a so i gave up haha

and i still hoped we would be getting storm and lache


I had to do a search to find it. That frat Q&A thread on the OT was classic.

Here are the pieces from an older thread that I give my thoughts
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They did not hold up their end of the deal and pissed off Miles from what his h/s coach said. Sure sounds like we moved on pretty quick after the story was run. Got a new big RB commit, same day Storm's offer is no longer on the table.


Lynxcat:
"All this tells me is that Ware was higher on the board than Storm.

If they really want Storm, then they would still have him and Ware would have been told a spot was not available.

The kid is going to be at your school for 4-5 years. You don't let a slip up by his father deter you to the point where you take people lower on your board.

I will probably be in the small group that just feels Storm was led on to a degree and the staff took a guy higher on the board. It just so happens that Storm's dad was irresponsible and gives an "excuse" for LSU to take a guy rated higher on their board."

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Like I said...I feel sorry for the kid


Lynxcat:

"Agree completely.

I think the staff led him on--and I will be roasted for ever thinking our staff could do something 'wrong.'

ETA: If the staff were to miss out on Ware, then they can cover their bases and still have Storm in the bag. It is a win win from the LSU position. "

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if that were the case then why even bother with the initial offer? The staff knew storm clearly wanted to be a tiger. They could have easily held off until his season started.



Lynxcat:

"No, to get legitimate interest from an out of state guy, you have to offer them. Otherwise they will never seriously consider a place they don't feel they can ever go.

By giving an "offer" they up Storm's interest level, while also being able to "play the field."

If they miss out on a higher ranked guy with a committable offer, then they can turn Storm's "uncommittable" offer into a "committable" offer without him even realizing it (unless of course he were to try to commit when it was still uncommittable)."

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That should just about cover it.


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