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That was a boring tennis match today.

Posted on 7/6/09 at 1:08 am
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 1:08 am
Federer hits over 20 aces just in one set alone.

Thats not tennis. time to change the rackets.
Posted by BIGTD
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 1:09 am to
Yea, I commented in the thread today about how boring these games are where there are 2-3 aces and the opponent scores maybe one point.

Pretty boring. Rally tennis is much better.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 1:09 am to
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Thats not tennis. time to change the rackets.


LOL.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 1:13 am to
why not?

Plates in Nascar, no aluminum bats in majors, limits on clubs in golf, there are plenty of sports that put limits on technology.

That fifth set wasn't about great games or points, it was about how two guys held serve forevere until one of them let the other guy break his serve. Reminded me of that boring five setter between Sampras and Agaassi at US Open that had a tie breaker in every set. Wasn't a match, was aserving clinic and one guy would win a set when he would actually win a point on other guy's serve in the tiebreaker. Today was no different. boring.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 1:14 am to
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That fifth set wasn't about great games or points, it was about how two guys held serve forevere until one of them let the other guy break his serve


That's not exactly new to tennis.

Breaking serve has always been extremely difficult and extremely important.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 1:16 am to
It was a little intriguing, but it would have been a lot better had Roddick won.
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 1:23 am to
sounds like most of yall are a bunch of women and would more enjoy watching bitch tennis
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 1:35 am to
No, I like tennis how it is right now. Without the new rackets and strings, Rafael Nadal wouldn't be able to think about winning on any other surface but clay.
Posted by Smokin Herb Tyler
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 2:03 am to
this is kinda a theory that many coaches and sports scientist have been pondering and it goes a little something like this...tennis has evolved from a finesse all court game to a power baseline game because the individual athletes were not able to catch up to the technology physically, it was difficult to play all court and not get blasted, ask Taylor Dent, but over the last several years and especially over the next several years the benefits of strength, speed and flexibility training, which not to long ago was taboo in the sport of tennis, is going to make it more exciting to watch, and the all court game should make a return and be a requirement for success, and that is already evident in roddick, he was from generation baseline bomber and was successful for that short span where the baseline game ruled, and now is turning to an all court game to keep up with the newer generation of players that are both strong enough to handle the power from the technology and still keep the flexibility to add the finesse back in where it is needed to play all court
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 2:14 am to
When you start seeing players get 50 aces a match, its time to change something. At some point it ruins the game. Watching two guys just shoot 130 mph serves that are unreturnable is not tennis. Servers always have an advantage, which is why guys like Connors and Agassi were special as they made return of serve an art but there is a difference between having an advantage and having a match where the return guy has no chance of returning a serve at all. What ruined tennis for me was watching Sampras-Ivanisovic at Wimbledon one year. That wasn't tennis, that was just to guys slamming unreturneable serves for a few hours while two spineless announcers didn't have the balls to call it the sham it was.
Posted by Smokin Herb Tyler
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 2:26 am to
i see your point and to be honest i was weary about how all that played out today with the aces and holds, but i think you will only see that on grass courts, when the US Open Series starts soon it will be more difficult to repeat anything like that and it should be much more entertaining tennis, plus fed has a variety of cut and slice serves that not many player can imitate when serving or read when returning, fed has some of those jedi midichlorians in his blood
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 2:37 am to
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When you start seeing players get 50 aces a match, its time to change something


They also played 77 games, the equivalent of about 7 sets.


Plus, Fed's serve isn't known to be soooo overpowering, it's his placement moreso.
This post was edited on 7/6/09 at 2:38 am
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 9:52 am to
Its time to chance the rackets. Maybe not wooden but something akin to the ones that came out in the early 90's or late 80's like the Prince graphite.

And yes, the women's game is more fun to watch. What a concept: Passing shots, slices, lobs, strategy: actual tennis.

In case you haven't noticed, ratings for men's tennis are not what they used to be and its not necessarily because there are some dull personalities. People have gotten tired of watching serve, point. Serve, point. Serve, return into the net.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 9:57 am to
Hack "journalists" have been blaming the raquets for
20 years now without acknowledging that the athletes have also been getting better.

Nice job of trying to think on your own.

Or not...
Posted by lsu xman
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 9:57 am to
i was an avid viewer of tennis back in the day, but havent sat down to watch a tennis match in a long time.

are the rackets making that big of a difference or is it b/c players today are stronger?
This post was edited on 7/6/09 at 10:01 am
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 10:05 am to
played tennis for years and followed it for years. Don't read tennis magazine and wouldn't know what the hack journalists are saying.

I DO know from demoing recquets and playing with them and seeing the differences over the years.

These guys are no stronger than becker or Curren. You put these rackets in Curren's or Tanner's hands they would be hitting 150 mph.

The difference is its taken one dimensional players who have a great serve and not a complete game and moved them up to another level whereas in the past, they will had to have a complete game if they wanted to win titles.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 10:05 am to
quote:

When you start seeing players get 50 aces a match, its time to change something.


Over five sets, with 30 games in the fifth set, I think that you're over reacting.

I hope you were complaining when Kevin Curran and Michael Stich were bombing cats like that that...

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What ruined tennis for me was watching Sampras-Ivanisovic at Wimbledon one year. That wasn't tennis, that was just to guys slamming unreturneable serves for a few hours while two spineless announcers didn't have the balls to call it the sham it was.


There was some brilliant tennis played yesterday morning, but the casual fan can't recognize that.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 10:07 am to
quote:

In case you haven't noticed, ratings for men's tennis are not what they used to be and its not necessarily because there are some dull personalities. People have gotten tired of watching serve, point. Serve, point. Serve, return into the net.


No, it's because the state of American men's tennis is horrible and has been since Sampras and Agassi retired.
Posted by MrKennedy
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 10:08 am to
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There was some brilliant tennis played yesterday morning, but the casual fan can't recognize that.
I am very much a casual fan and enjoyed every minute of that match. Well, that I watched at least... I missed the beginning.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 7/6/09 at 10:09 am to
The difference is that the athletes are MUCH better now. Yes, the technology helps some players a bit, but it's really more the talent level than anything else.
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