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re: How many of you have coached baseball at a high level before

Posted on 4/12/09 at 10:44 pm to
Posted by tigermike200444
baton rouge
Member since Dec 2003
9106 posts
Posted on 4/12/09 at 10:44 pm to
i coached my brothers 13-15 yr old team years ago.i made a splash pulling them off the field and arguing with the head ump.he lived across the road from me.
Posted by tiger20
Member since Dec 2004
5508 posts
Posted on 4/12/09 at 11:31 pm to
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guarantee none of those schools will ever think "damn, we shouldve hired that good for nothing drunk from some hick town in arkansas"


That remains to be seen. At this time, neither Mark Fox nor Anthony Grant have achieved what JOhn Brady has. Brady has coached a Final Four and Sweet 16 team, won two SEC championships and recruited a third, and won three SEC West crowns.
Fox and Grant have not won titles in a major conference. Neither one has inherited a team under NCAA investigation, nor will eithe rone guide a program through draconian sanctions.

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for 3/11 years,


The impact of the sanctions lasted through at least the 2003 seasons.

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incredible heights like not making the postseason at all for 2 years after going to the final 4?


Trent Johnson admitted that Brady would still be the coach at LSU if not for the injuries to Tasmin Mitchell last year and Glen Davis and Magnum Rolle the previou season.

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incredible heights like having over 30 players leave the team in one way or another in 11 years?


I have already proven to you that the rate of attrition was in the middle for major college programs. You persist in bringing it up and I continue to prove you wrong. I won't waste my time in this post.

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and then leaving the program in a state of almost certain future sanctions because of the pathetic apr score he is responsible for


This isn't going to happen. The APR rate is steadily improving. It was lower because the ratings were impacted by the years they were under draconian sanctions and had to take more chances. The record shows taht 21 of the last 28 signees either played through their senior season or remain on the squad unless they were early entrants to the NBA. I believe this would be in the top third of the SEC and would rank with the best of most major conference programs.

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oh good, a new bullshite excuse. please expand, and be sure to chronicle the facilities of all other SEC and comparable basketball programs in the process.


Why would there have been plans released about four years ago to build a new practice facility if they did not have substandard facilities? Despite the obvious need, and the competitive disadvantage not having the facility presented, the administration amazingly elected to build a new women's softball stadium to replace one that was only a decade old.

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there is somebody around here with a sig quote of you guaranteeing john brady would be coaching at georgia or alabama next year


I can't prevent Georgia an Alabama from continuing to act foolishly. When did either of those schools achieve anything in basketball? Both will rue the day they bypassed Brady for their head coaching positions.
Posted by latiger09
Member since Jun 2005
7226 posts
Posted on 4/13/09 at 2:48 am to
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That remains to be seen.



no it doesnt. neither school even felt the need to consider brady for their job. if the current coaches they hired dont work out, they will regret passing over some of the other coaches they were considering, not the good for nothing drunk from arkansas.

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At this time, neither Mark Fox nor Anthony Grant have achieved what JOhn Brady has.


fox and grant both made the postseason every year they were at a mid-major school. brady has never done that. grant and fox both won an ncaa tournament game in their first year's as coaches. it took brady 9 years and a top 5 nba draft pick to win 1. they have both won a MUCH greater percentage of their games at mid majors, both overall and in conference, than brady has. both anthony grant and mark fox have accomplished MUCH more than john brady has.

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Brady has coached a Final Four and Sweet 16 team,


no, brady has sat in a chair on the sideline stomping his feet and biting his towel while 2 top 5 nba draft picks carried him to the only good seasons hes ever been a part of.

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won two SEC championships and recruited a third,


john brady was 1-6 last year with this exact same team, plus tasmin mitchell and minus anthony randolph. he gets absolutely no credit for any of the success that trent johnson's coaching brought this group of players.

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Fox and Grant have not won titles in a major conference.


thats because fox and grant have not coached in a major conference. both have won multiple titles in mid major conferences. john brady never came close to winning 1.

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Neither one has inherited a team under NCAA investigation,


good thing they didnt come to lsu then and have to face the apr mess brady left them with.

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nor will eithe rone guide a program through draconian sanctions.


neither did brady for basically 3/4 of his lsu career.

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The impact of the sanctions lasted through at least the 2003 seasons.


the sanctions were for 3 years and started in 1998. you want to make shite up and wish it was true like "the impacted lasted through at least 2003" keep on going. everyone else knows what the truth is and knows your dumbass is incapable of producing it.

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Trent Johnson admitted that Brady would still be the coach at LSU if not for the injuries to Tasmin Mitchell last year


trent johnson also admitted that the reason he 1. cannot schedule a decent OOC schedule and 2. cannot sign any recruits with any type of academic risk is because of the absolutely shitty apr score john brady left him with because he ran off so many players.

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and Glen Davis and Magnum Rolle the previou season.


trent johnson never mentioned glen davis or magnum rolle. more stupid bullshite from you.

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I have already proven to you that the rate of attrition was in the middle for major college programs.


no you havent. you completely made up bullshite numbers and posted them as fact. you intentionally lied when overstated the number of people that florida had leave, and understated the number of people lsu had leave to attempt to prove your point.

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You persist in bringing it up and I continue to prove you wrong.


you have NEVER proven me wrong.

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I won't waste my time in this post.


why not? i know you have the numbers you made up copied on file somewhere so you can post them again and hope nobody discovers how bullshite they are.

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This isn't going to happen.


really? so trent johnson was lying when he said 1 more player transferring or leaving the team because of grades = loss of scholarships?

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The APR rate is steadily improving.


the new APR numbers have not even come out yet you pathetic lying piece of shite.

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It was lower because the ratings were impacted by the years they were under draconian sanctions and had to take more chances.


"The baseball and men’s basketball teams were the only sports cited for falling below the 925 mark for the four-year period dating back to the 2003-04 academic year."

may 26, 2008

try again you fricking moron

with an apr score of 910, mens basketball shouldve already been on probation. not only can trent johnson not afford for it to go any lower, he actually has to raise it at least 15 points.

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The record shows taht 21 of the last 28 signees either played through their senior season or remain on the squad unless they were early entrants to the NBA.


i know this is complete bullshite.

last 28 signees that have either completed eligibility, entered nba early, or left the team:

randolph
m thornton
q thornton
chris johnson
tas mitchell
voogd - 1
rolle - 2
davis
temple
t thomas
bass
koundja - 3
lazare
minor - 4
neltner - 5
ambres - 6
gipson - 7
lloreda - 8
d. mitchell

thats only 20 signees, and already 8 of them either failed out or transferred. are you EVER going to post an actual fact on this board?

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I believe this would be in the top third of the SEC and would rank with the best of most major conference programs.


i dont give a shite what you believe, because its not true.

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Why would there have been plans released about four years ago to build a new practice facility if they did not have substandard facilities?


to make the facilities better. that does not mean they were sub standard.

tiger stadium just underwent a multi-million dollar renovation. was it sub-standard before?

and why didnt you chronicle the facilities development of every other sec school and comparable school around the country? i mean, you didnt even attempt to make anything up about those. are you giving up this "point" you tried to create that easily?

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the administration amazingly elected to build a new women's softball stadium to replace one that was only a decade old.


didnt you JUST ask something about why would they build a new facility if the old one wasnt sub-standard?

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I can't prevent Georgia an Alabama from continuing to act foolishly.


yes, they are acting foolishly. florida, arguably the best athletic department in major college sports, was set to hire anthony grant when billy donovan was going to orlando. but alabama is acting foolishly by hiring him.

and why are you only talking about georgia and alabama? what about kentucky? what about memphis? what about arizona? are those too high profile for even the great john brady or something? ok fine. what about washington state? what about virginia? what about xavier? why isnt brady even considered for ANY of those jobs?

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When did either of those schools achieve anything in basketball?


well, for starters they have both been in the postseason more recently than a team coached by johhn brady has. theyve also both posted a winning record more recently than a team coach by john brady has.

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Both will rue the day they bypassed Brady for their head coaching positions.


id be surprised if either school is even aware that john brady even coaches college basketball anymore, unless they were smart enough to schedule arkansas state this year or next year.

Posted by Shanesix
Abita Springs
Member since Apr 2008
1936 posts
Posted on 4/13/09 at 6:29 am to
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How many of you have coached baseball at a high level before


I coach t-ball --- highest level of patients needed!!
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
78173 posts
Posted on 4/13/09 at 8:04 am to
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i coached my brothers 13-15 yr old team years ago.i made a splash pulling them off the field and arguing with the head ump.he lived across the road from me

not very good sportsmanship
Posted by mametoo
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
3220 posts
Posted on 4/13/09 at 8:12 am to
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not very good sportsmanship


What does sportsmanship have to do with little league baseball anymore? Unfortunately its win, win, win at any cost.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 4/13/09 at 8:14 am to
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Hindsite is always 20/20.


Pat Dye says hindsight is 50/50.
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1093 posts
Posted on 4/13/09 at 8:23 am to
the premise of this thread seems to be that if you have no experience in coaching at a high level you have no right to be critical of a coach which is flawed (see the I know a good meal even if I can't cook idea - I know a good team and a well coached team even if I can't coach) Sports fans often have a fairly good level of understanding of the games, even though they aren't qualified to be considered experts

I played ball growing up, as did most people who post here, but I watch hours and hours of various sports and I know a well coached team when I see it The real issue is whether we should be so critical of a few instances of coaching judgment that we don't understand or agree with
the LSU baseball team is playing well and is clearly playing better than the team from a few years ago so the coach has earned the chance to make a mistake or two
baseball is about percentages, and just because the percentages don't work every time doesn't make someone a bad coach


As for basketball, in my humble opinion, this is the best actual basketball coach LSU has had in my memory
This post was edited on 4/13/09 at 8:25 am
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