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My greatest fear of Iran
Posted on 4/12/26 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 4/12/26 at 1:56 pm
Is that we half arse this thing and leave the IRGC wounded but even more devoted to killing Christians and Jews than ever before.
My biggest fear is that I know how America is from past engagements. Our enemies can defeat us, or at the very least regroup to fight another day by simply letting us bewail our actions, lose focus, or negotiate and simply wait us out. They know us. We know us. Everyone knows us and this is our calling card, making a mess, but also creating an even bigger and more dangerous mess because we lack the resolve to finish the damn job like grown ups.
We should NEVER become entangled in anything unless we are fully and mentally prepared to finish the job and see it through to the end, especially with an ideologue like terrorists who will become nuclear at some point and lust to slaughter you to earn brownie points with their death cult god.
It’s why no matter what we thought about this action beforehand, now that we are headlong in it, we cannot quit now or we’ll simply pave the way for retribution in the not too distant future.
Finish it.
My biggest fear is that I know how America is from past engagements. Our enemies can defeat us, or at the very least regroup to fight another day by simply letting us bewail our actions, lose focus, or negotiate and simply wait us out. They know us. We know us. Everyone knows us and this is our calling card, making a mess, but also creating an even bigger and more dangerous mess because we lack the resolve to finish the damn job like grown ups.
We should NEVER become entangled in anything unless we are fully and mentally prepared to finish the job and see it through to the end, especially with an ideologue like terrorists who will become nuclear at some point and lust to slaughter you to earn brownie points with their death cult god.
It’s why no matter what we thought about this action beforehand, now that we are headlong in it, we cannot quit now or we’ll simply pave the way for retribution in the not too distant future.
Finish it.
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Posted on 4/12/26 at 1:57 pm to Mike da Tigah
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Finish it.
There is no such thing. At least not realistically.
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We should NEVER become entangled in anything unless we are fully and mentally prepared to finish the job and see it through to the end
Which is why this whole thing is suspect conceptually to begin with. No shot we have the stomach to effect lasting change in Iran.
This post was edited on 4/12/26 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 4/12/26 at 1:57 pm to Mike da Tigah
Ye of little Faith.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 1:58 pm to Mike da Tigah
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Finish it.
How?
Posted on 4/12/26 at 1:59 pm to Crow Pie
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Ye of little Faith.
Not much to go on but previous track records.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 2:00 pm to Mike da Tigah
These were all things known prior to the war....hence why the war was a stupid idea in the first place. The chance of a quick decisive victory was always very low.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 2:00 pm to Mike da Tigah
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IRGC wounded but even more devoted to killing Christians
Is this a new phenomena you are predicting or are you confusing the IRGC with the Israel/Sunni supported states like Syria?
Posted on 4/12/26 at 2:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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How?
Bomb the IRGC to nothingness and arm the hell outa the Persian people and let them finish what we started whilst providing air support where needed.
They know who they are and the one thing the IRGC fears most is an armed populous who are more than motivated to exact revenge
Posted on 4/12/26 at 2:02 pm to Mike da Tigah
Panican
Posted on 4/12/26 at 2:03 pm to Mike da Tigah
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Bomb the IRGC to nothingness and arm the hell outa the Persian people and let them finish what we started whilst providing air support where needed.
You make it sound so simple
Posted on 4/12/26 at 2:03 pm to joshnorris14
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Is this a new phenomena you are predicting or are you confusing the IRGC with the Israel/Sunni supported states like Syria?
He likely doesn't understand whom the Shia consider their more immediate enemy. Iran did sign a weapons deal with Armenia, a Christian country, who is in an on/off again war with Azerbaijan, which is the one of the only other Shia majority states in the world.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 2:04 pm to Mike da Tigah
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arm the hell outa the Persian people
Some of you literally learned nothing between 1980 and 2021.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 2:09 pm to Mike da Tigah
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Finish it.
You mean like Iraq and Afghanistan?
Posted on 4/12/26 at 2:09 pm to Mike da Tigah
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They know who they are and the one thing the IRGC fears most is an armed populous who are more than motivated to exact revenge
Again, what if the supporter base of the IRGC, which is a majoritarian institution, is higher than the relatively disparate groups that might make up the opposition? That fact is why the Shia clerics eventually became the dominant power in Iran during the revolution, as the revolution itself was supported by several blocs, who the regime eventually killed once they consolidated power.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 2:10 pm to Mike da Tigah
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unless we are fully and mentally prepared to finish the job and see it through to the end
It's the enemy within that wants us to quit and lose.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 2:11 pm to Mike da Tigah
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Bomb the IRGC to nothingness and arm the hell outa the Persian people and let them finish what we started whilst providing air support where needed.
So you want to kill millions and then arm Muslim rebels to take over in the power vaccum?
Is this your first war in the Middle East?
Posted on 4/12/26 at 2:11 pm to Mike da Tigah
quote:I was a freshman in college in 1979 with Iranian classmates. and what happened to those people has led me to be all for removing truly oppressive regimes to give people a chance to have a little happiness in our short time here.
Not much to go on but previous track records.
Close to 90 million people are being repressed and we have a chance to help free them, imo it's worth trying. I remember that the world became a much better place after the wall fell. Just look at all the countries that have their identity back,. I see this as very similar in that 90MM is a lot of people and culture to save,
The ROI is exponentially greater than in Ukraine.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 2:13 pm to Crow Pie
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The ROI is exponentially greater than in Ukraine.
Not when you look at the "I" variable.
If we engaged in similar actions that we just did in Iran, in Ukraine, we'd have butt fricked Russia back to the early 90s and won the war outright.
We just did that in Iran, retreated, and now you want to escalate at 10x the price without any clear path to victory.
Posted on 4/12/26 at 2:13 pm to Crow Pie
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Close to 90 million people are being repressed and we have a chance to help free them, imo it's worth trying.
It would be awfully naive of you to think that objective is even on our radar
Posted on 4/12/26 at 2:13 pm to Crow Pie
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The ROI is exponentially greater than in Ukraine.
Is it? As a base cost you're looking at a minimum of $5 Trillion over 5 years to ensure successful regime change in Iran. We could buy Ukraine for that price.
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