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Regarding the policy on illegal streaming audio links...

Posted on 2/22/09 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26675 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 12:01 pm
I received a call last week from the LSU Athletic Department asking me to assist them in removing links to streaming audio of the LSU games.

I was told that it is illegal to rebroadcast the transmission of the games without consent, and that a cease and desist order has been sent to UStream.com and other similar sites by LSU/SEC to stop this practice.

I was also told that the free streaming sites obviously hurt the pay-to-listen Geaux Zone business.

I figured that the decision to remove links to those sites would not be popular. Since I live in Houston, I too have benefited from those links.

But I don't want this site to be assisting some practice that is deemed illegal. I think you have seen a lot more media entities cracking down on the illegal rebroadcast/redistribution of copyrighted video/audio content...YouTube is a prime example.

Anyhow, I figured I needed to get this out.
This post was edited on 2/24/09 at 2:20 pm
Posted by TigahFan4Life
Baton Rouge, LA home of the TIGAHS!
Member since Aug 2007
11012 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 12:04 pm to
thats gonna change a lot of play by play game threads. sucks
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 12:07 pm to
Thanks for the explanation chicken.

Makes sense.
This post was edited on 2/22/09 at 12:07 pm
Posted by LSUmomma
Member since Sep 2007
8177 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

But I don't want this site to be assisting some practice that is deemed illegal. I think you have seen a lot more media entities cracking down on the illegal rebroadcast/redistribution of copyrighted video/audio content...YouTube is a prime example.

Anyhow, I figured I needed to get this out.


Thanks for explaining, it's a bummer, but at least people will know to not ask for links like all day yesterday....
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 12:16 pm to
Dam this sucks. I travel a lot and these links are really a lifesaver.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26675 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 12:17 pm to
Thanks...I guess it is a sign of the times. Those streaming sites will come under a lot of pressure. I don't know if those sites have rules and guidelines that state that your can't rebroadcast copyrighted video/audio, so I am not sure if this will be a prolonged fight between the schools and those sites.

Technology has allowed schools like LSU to more centrally control the distribution of its live broadcasts, and reap some benefits (ie, $$$ from Geaux Zone).
Posted by lsufan3
Orlando
Member since Nov 2005
301 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

but at least people will know to not ask for links


I really doubt it.

Posted by tigahfromtheham
On your left
Member since Jun 2005
5863 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 12:18 pm to
Thanks for the explanation.

Anyone know rates on GeauxZone? Quality?
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39872 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 12:19 pm to
If they think this will increase revenue for the Geaux Zone, then they are out of touch with what is taking place today.
Posted by LSUmomma
Member since Sep 2007
8177 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

Anyone know rates on GeauxZone? Quality?



discussed here..


and here..
This post was edited on 2/22/09 at 12:22 pm
Posted by BamaTiger
Member since Jan 2005
353 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 12:22 pm to
Thanks for the clarification Chicken!

Just for clarification on TD policy --- If there was a legal link to streaming audio, say Villanova athletics had a stream for today's baseball game, would it be OK to post a link to it? This is just a hypothetical.
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 12:24 pm to
Hey chicken, Headslash wants to let you know that he did not mean to cause you any grief and that he was only trying to help fellow tiger fans.

Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26675 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

If they think this will increase revenue for the Geaux Zone, then they are out of touch with what is taking place today.
Perhaps...and I am not sure if you are talking from a audio quality perspective, but I was told that the crack down also had to do with it not being fair for paying members of Geaux Zone to have non-paying members get the same benefit.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26675 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

If there was a legal link to streaming audio, say Villanova athletics had a stream for today's baseball game, would it be OK to post a link to it? This is just a hypothetical.
of course it would be ok. LSU's beef is with these 3rd party entities that rebroadcast the transmission without permission.
This post was edited on 2/22/09 at 12:34 pm
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

I was also told that the free streaming sites obviously hurt the pay-to-listen Geaux Zone business.


doesn't hurt it near as bad as the suck-arse performance, coupled with zero customer service, of the Geaux Zone..
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79194 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

doesn't hurt it near as bad as the suck-arse performance, coupled with zero customer service, of the Geaux Zone..


+1
Posted by JohnLSU
Death Valley, LA
Member since Aug 2007
7923 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

I was also told that the free streaming sites obviously hurt the pay-to-listen Geaux Zone business.



Geaux Zone suck too much

Improve it about 100% and put some dedication into it and maybe people would consider paying for it.
Posted by Crumble
Planet LSU
Member since Jan 2006
2264 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 12:38 pm to
Thanks for that.

And another thing.. and this will go over really well, I'm sure.

Since LSU legitimately controls the "descriptions and accounts" of their material, is doing play-by-play, as is happening right now on the Rant, also a no-no?

It seems that they (LSU) could decide it's not allowed.

Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
5361 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 12:40 pm to
I can't wait to start a "does anyone have a LEGAL stream link?" thread
This post was edited on 2/22/09 at 12:42 pm
Posted by MikeDTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2004
2544 posts
Posted on 2/22/09 at 12:43 pm to
Florida, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt provide free streaming broadcasts for every game.

Legitimate radio affiliates for Alabama, Auburn, and occasionally Arkansas, Georgia, Mississippi State, and South Carolina sometimes have streaming links available for their teams.

Can you pass along to your omnipotent admins that in no way, shape, or form those links are illegal?

There seemed to be a little confusion about that yesterday with a legitimate Auburn radio affiliate.
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