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Conquered land isn’t stolen land
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:08 am
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:08 am
Previous groups had their chance and couldn’t win.
Looking at you Hawaii.
Looking at you Hawaii.
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:10 am to weagle1999
Won it in a fair fight. To the victors and whatnot.
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:10 am to weagle1999
This was common knowledge up to about 100 years ago. The natives we conquered "stole" the land from previous natives. It is the worst argument ever.
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:12 am to weagle1999
One more time. Whoever possesses the land makes the rules. That’s why DEM led cities are shiteholes.
This post was edited on 2/2/26 at 11:33 am
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:15 am to 03 West CoChamps
quote:
This was common knowledge up to about 100 years ago. The natives we conquered "stole" the land from previous natives. It is the worst argument ever.
Natives that haven't even yet discovered the wheel.
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:30 am to weagle1999
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:31 am to i am dan
I believe the natives we had either came across the land bridge or were remnants of the germicide that the Europeans brought over. It blew my mind that Cuba at one point barely had 100 people on it because everyone died from diseases they were never exposed to. We switched over to africans because they were resistant, new more crops, and could handle horses
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:35 am to weagle1999
I couldn't care less if it was stolen or conquered...all I know is I paid for this piece of earth I'm on! Whoever wants to take it from me, just come on and try to take it! I ain't no badass...but I got some badass toys.
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:38 am to weagle1999
I used to be fairly absolute in my agreement with the OP.
One caveat, though.
In virtually all cases, the land was indeed conquered, and I have no problem with saying that.
A more legitimate gripe, though, are the hundreds of ratified treaties that have been broken. If we agreed to and ratified treaties with what we held to be independent nations, then broke them, that’s not good.
I can (and will) argue that it was stupid to approach these situations with these treaties, but I’m also a big believer in living up to agreements.
I’m not at all saying the “stolen land” argument is valid. I’m just saying it’s not as black and white as saying we conquered land that they had conquered before us.
One caveat, though.
In virtually all cases, the land was indeed conquered, and I have no problem with saying that.
A more legitimate gripe, though, are the hundreds of ratified treaties that have been broken. If we agreed to and ratified treaties with what we held to be independent nations, then broke them, that’s not good.
I can (and will) argue that it was stupid to approach these situations with these treaties, but I’m also a big believer in living up to agreements.
I’m not at all saying the “stolen land” argument is valid. I’m just saying it’s not as black and white as saying we conquered land that they had conquered before us.
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:42 am to weagle1999
Conquered? Stolen? Who gives a shite? It’s the land of opportunity.
When violent illegal criminals (or anyone who is threat to Americans) acts against America’s public safety— deport or imprison their arses.
When violent illegal criminals (or anyone who is threat to Americans) acts against America’s public safety— deport or imprison their arses.
This post was edited on 2/2/26 at 11:49 am
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:48 am to weagle1999
I think another way to describe it could be conquerors -v- squatters.
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:53 am to i am dan
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Natives that haven't even yet discovered the wheel.
No wheel, hadn't domesticated the horse, no written language, etc. Basically cavemen.
Posted on 2/2/26 at 11:54 am to weagle1999
People need to also remember we paid for NY, LA, AK, and Hawaii.
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