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New router/modem and connecting devices
Posted on 12/16/25 at 6:38 am
Posted on 12/16/25 at 6:38 am
Have to replace my router/modem. I do not want to have to reconnect every single device. My question is, if I name the 2.5 and 5.0 networks with the exact name and use the same passwords from the previous router/modem, will the devices automatically connect? Thank you.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 7:01 am to LSUTANGERINE
95% of devices will transition fine just like you mentioned.
One or two oddballs may not like newer WiFi protocols at all.
Wouldn’t hurt to use the same dhcp gateway and subnet mask in case a couple are clingy.
One or two oddballs may not like newer WiFi protocols at all.
Wouldn’t hurt to use the same dhcp gateway and subnet mask in case a couple are clingy.
This post was edited on 12/16/25 at 7:07 am
Posted on 12/16/25 at 7:42 am to Dallaswho
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95% of devices will transition fine just like you mentioned.
That may have worked at one time, but it really doesn’t anymore. I tried the same thing recently and every device on my network wasn’t fooled. They knew it was a different network, despite all the settings being identical.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:28 am to FieldEngineer
Maybe one of your systems didn’t use WPA in a standard way? It really shouldn’t be a problem if the ID, password and security mechanisms are the same.
Maybe come cached roaming expectations or dhcp leases hang clients for a few minutes or maybe even until a reboot but transitions should be fairly clean.
Maybe come cached roaming expectations or dhcp leases hang clients for a few minutes or maybe even until a reboot but transitions should be fairly clean.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:56 am to Dallaswho
It was a basic SSID with WPA2 on my Ubiquiti gear. I took the opportunity to change SSID names, add WPA2/WPA3 on the primary SSID, then create a WPA3 only SSID with MLO for devices that support it.
Seems like creating a new network with the same SSID/PW shouldn't work. Otherwise, devices are very open to MITM attacks.
Seems like creating a new network with the same SSID/PW shouldn't work. Otherwise, devices are very open to MITM attacks.
This post was edited on 12/16/25 at 8:58 am
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:44 am to FieldEngineer
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They knew it was a different network, despite all the settings being identical.
It could also be is the problem devices have a stale arp cache. Try rebooting the devices in question or clearing the cache.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:49 am to FieldEngineer
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Otherwise, devices are very open to MITM attacks.
They are open, but I wouldn’t say “very” open. That’s pretty high effort and requires knowing passwords. It’s also been decades since devices trusted local traffic by default.
This post was edited on 12/16/25 at 10:54 am
Posted on 12/17/25 at 8:31 am to FieldEngineer
quote:It still works every time I do it, whether I use Ubiquiti gear or something else, and it doesn't matter which way I'm swapping.
That may have worked at one time, but it really doesn’t anymore. I tried the same thing recently and every device on my network wasn’t fooled. They knew it was a different network, despite all the settings being identical.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 8:38 am to FieldEngineer
quote:It works because that's how PSK is defined. And yes the evil twin AP is an obvious attack vector and that's why protocols treat wifi as hostile transport.
Seems like creating a new network with the same SSID/PW shouldn't work. Otherwise, devices are very open to MITM attacks.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:38 am to FieldEngineer
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That may have worked at one time, but it really doesn’t anymore.
It's also worked for me every time I've changed or updated a router/access point (and I've got 4 of them in a approx 4,500 sq ft house.)
Sounds like you're missing something subtle.
The obvious solution for the OP is to try what they want to do. If it works, great, you're done. If not, then comeback and the group can help troubleshoot...
I popped the OP's question into chatgtp....
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Yes — in most cases, your devices will automatically reconnect ??
If you do the following, they’ll see the new router as if it were the old one:
What must match exactly
For each band (2.4 GHz and 5 GHz):
SSID (Wi-Fi name) – character-for-character identical
Password – identical (case-sensitive)
Security type – ideally the same (e.g., WPA2-PSK or WPA2/WPA3)
If those match, phones, laptops, smart TVs, plugs, cameras, etc. should reconnect without any action on your part.
Important details to watch out for
These are the common reasons devices don’t reconnect:
Security mode changed
Old router: WPA2 only
New router: WPA3 or WPA2/WPA3 mixed
Some older IoT devices cannot connect to WPA3.
Recommendation: Set security to WPA2-PSK (AES) if you have smart devices.
Band behavior
If you previously had separate SSIDs (e.g., MyWiFi_2G and MyWiFi_5G), keep them separate.
If the new router uses band steering (single SSID), most devices will still connect — but a few older ones may struggle.
Hidden SSID
If the old network was hidden and the new one is not (or vice versa), some devices may fail to auto-connect.
MAC address filtering
If enabled on the old router and not replicated, connections may fail.
Best-practice setup for easiest transition
Set 2.4 GHz SSID = old 2.4 GHz name
Set 5 GHz SSID = old 5 GHz name
Use the exact same passwords
Set security to WPA2-PSK (AES)
Do not enable WPA3 unless you’re sure all devices support it
What devices reconnect almost 100% of the time
Phones & tablets
Laptops
Streaming devices (Roku, Apple TV, Fire TV)
Game consoles
Devices most likely to need manual reconnect
Older smart plugs/bulbs
Printers
Older cameras
Legacy IoT devices (2.4 GHz only)
Pro tip
Do NOT factory-reset your devices until after you test.
Most people find that 90–95% reconnect automatically when SSID/password/security match.
If you want, tell me:
Old router model
New router model
…and I can tell you exactly which settings to mirror for the smoothest swap.
This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 9:44 am
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:56 am to Korkstand
Gotcha. It certainly didn't work for me on over 30 devices, but there could have been some other factors in play.
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