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Libertarians...Is there a line that can be drawn?
Posted on 12/13/25 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 12/13/25 at 2:25 pm
Or do y’all believe in survival of the fittest? As it concerns nations and the populace.
This post was edited on 12/13/25 at 4:24 pm
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 2:30 pm to 1955
Good luck getting answers as most are fringe and don’t like to admit they’re libertarian. They do love to criticize as much as the left though and easy to spot them.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 2:41 pm to Jugbow
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Good luck getting answers as most are fringe and don’t like to admit they’re libertarian. They do love to criticize as much as the left though and easy to spot them.
Libertarian = conservatives.
Neoconservatives hate libertarians and conservatives because they are actually Trotsky Marxists from Poland/Ukraine who were kicked out in the 1920s. They are anti-soviet and rebranded as neoconservatives in the late 1960s because the democrat party was going soft on Russia. They have hijacked the GOP since the 80s.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 2:50 pm to 1955
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Is there a line that can be drawn? Or do y’all believe in survival of the fittest? As it concerns nations and the populace.
What do you mean exactly? I believe in the constitution and following the constitution. There are multiple levels of government. You have federal, state, local and YOU.
So just because I'm against something on the federal level doesn't exactly mean I'm against it on all levels. Also each state should be free to do whatever they want.
For the most part, domestic issues should NEVER be handled by the federal government. Welfare, education, and so on. Domestic issues should be handled by the states and local governments. The federal governments main focus is defense, foreign policy and settling things between states etc. They should be handling currency rather than a private bank as well.
And then on state level, they can take up domestic issues if they want. If California wants to be communist or whatever, that's generally allowed as long as they dont infringe on listed rights. I personally wouldn't want to live there and wouldn't recommend it.
In that way, you have 50 different education programs, each working to be the best, allows for more things being tried. Rather than everyone stuck with one for 4-8 years allowing no innovation and so forth. You vote more often on state levels etc. If 1 state does fricked up shite, only that state suffers, and they have 49 others to look at.
And you have more say on the state level because your 1 vote is a larger % of the vote.
OR you can maybe take it even lower to the local level rather than state. And it becomes many more programs innovating, and so forth. And your vote makes up an even larger % of the vote.
And then finally individual choice, which is your freedom to choose for yourself. You make up 100% of the vote.
So when you say libertarian, it's mostly a matter of following the constitution, restoring the republic and returning the power to the people. I would like things to be decentralized a lot, but maybe some states and people want a variety. That comes down to the state constitutions etc.
If you want to know how things can be handled with little to no government specifically, feel free to ask.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 2:51 pm to 1955
Freedom breeds inequity
Posted on 12/13/25 at 2:56 pm to 1955
I dont even know what youre trying to ask to be quite honest.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 2:58 pm to 3down10
I appreciate your response. Do you have an issue with unregulated capitalism?
I’m new here…just trying to get an idea how participants “ label” their political leanings.
I’m new here…just trying to get an idea how participants “ label” their political leanings.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 2:59 pm to DatNolaClap
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I dont even know what youre trying to ask to be quite honest.
Freedom is out of style, the masses are terrified of it.
Just more justification for statism.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:06 pm to 1955
My libertarian beliefs
Sound Money
Government out of market places
No war
Sound Money
Government out of market places
No war
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Total freedom is anarchy. How close do your beliefs come to anarchy?
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:12 pm to 1955
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Total freedom is anarchy.
Controlled "freedom" is authoritarian
Most Libertarians arent anarchists. They are just less authoritarian than MAGA and Progressivism.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
Nature breeds inequity. What is your point?
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:17 pm to 1955
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Is there a line that can be drawn? Or do y’all believe in survival of the fittest? As it concerns nations and the populace.
Rephrase your question with a little more context.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:18 pm to RogerTheShrubber
So…middle of the road? Rational people. I assume some libertarians are for different laws than other libertarians might be for. Laws against or protecting the right to have an Abortion as an example
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:18 pm to 1955
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Nature breeds inequity
Only if given enough freedom to matter
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What is your point?
Freedom breeds inequity
That's why people hate it
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:19 pm to 1955
My take is minimal Federal Govt, stronger local govt.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:21 pm to 1955
Libertarians rabidly support those that cannot win so they never have to defend policy implementations.
They could have always done better because they can always compare whatever to perfection.
They could have always done better because they can always compare whatever to perfection.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:22 pm to 1955
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I appreciate your response. Do you have an issue with unregulated capitalism?
I’m new here…just trying to get an idea how participants “ label” their political leanings.
What do you mean unregulated? Most regulations actually legalize things which should be illegal.
It should be illegal for me to throw my trash on your yard right? But I can get a regulation that says it's ok for me to throw a certain amount of trash on your yard.
Fraud, theft and so forth should all remain illegal. Is that regulation?
I don't think unregulated means lawless. Nor does it mean standards can't be set. For example - Kosher isn't a government regulation/standard. It's the standard for people who set that as a standard and demand it.
And if you claim a standard and don't do it, then you should be charged with fraud or whatever is appropriate.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:34 pm to 3down10
How do you feel about anti trust laws?
Posted on 12/13/25 at 3:35 pm to 1955
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Or do y’all believe in survival of the fittest? As it concerns nations and the populace.
The way you chose to phrase the question suggests you believe libertarianism = anarchy, or every person should be totally free to act in their own self interest. I have no idea how you might have come to that conclusion, but you are wrong.
Libertarians take the position that restrictions are only necessary to prevent harm, aggression, or infringement on the equal liberties of others.
The philosophy views the role of government as favoring a government limited to protecting individuals from coercion, national defense, and enforcing contracts.
An example is people should be free to ride a motorcycle without a helmet. It becomes a problem when the cost to society is increased insurance rates as a result of helmetless cyclists selfishly Imposing a financial burden on others.
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