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Too many people think Freedom comes free of inconvenience
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:33 pm
Clearly we need to reign in the overburdensome, bloated, inefficient government.
But unfortunately, to function as a society we need SOME government. And with that comes the hassle bureaucracy.
I see too many simplistic views here that freedom should come completely free of inconvenience.
But unfortunately, to function as a society we need SOME government. And with that comes the hassle bureaucracy.
I see too many simplistic views here that freedom should come completely free of inconvenience.
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:37 pm to sidewalkside
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I see too many simplistic views here that freedom should come completely free of inconvenience.
I also see too many people hyperbolically acting like small government should = NO government. All in the name of some kind of internet gotcha.
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:39 pm to sidewalkside
Freedom comes with tradeoffs too, but y'all dont seem to think about that.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:40 pm to sidewalkside
Please point out all the "no govt" folks out there. Probably pretty hard to do. What isnt hard to do is to find people who hyperventilate at reducing the bureaucracy by even 5%, when we could actually reduce it by much more with zero real world impact to taxpayers.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Freedom comes with tradeoffs too, but y'all dont seem to think about that.
There is no such thing as perfect freedom. Something is always going to restrict you, be it government, society, economy, etc. All you can do is to mitigate those factors the best you can.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:42 pm to Godfather1
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I also see too many people hyperbolically acting like small government should = NO government. All in the name of some kind of internet gotcha.
Limited govt is what "we" used to want. Thats no longer the case here at all.
I;ll take dangerous freedom any day to govt "protections."
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:43 pm to Godfather1
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There is no such thing as perfect freedom.
I'll take the most we can allow. I've got guns to keep myself safe, dont need the federal govt.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:47 pm to sidewalkside
Civilization requires some trade offs that include some freedoms.
We don't have the freedom to drive on the sidewalk to get around traffic. We don't have the freedom to steal from our neighbors, etc., etc.
Without civilization it's the law of the jungle and the only free people are the strongest warlords.
It's all a delicate balance.
We don't have the freedom to drive on the sidewalk to get around traffic. We don't have the freedom to steal from our neighbors, etc., etc.
Without civilization it's the law of the jungle and the only free people are the strongest warlords.
It's all a delicate balance.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:48 pm to Tigersforthee
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Please point out all the "no govt" folks out there. P
RIP GMorgan
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:48 pm to TrueTiger
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We don't have the freedom to drive on the sidewalk to get around traffic. We don't have the freedom to steal from our neighbors, etc., etc.
Your rights end where mine begin. And vice versa.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:51 pm to sidewalkside
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I see too many simplistic views here that freedom should come completely free of inconvenience.
So you think its perfectly fine for LE to stop you on the street and demand your "papers" when no crime has been suspected or committed by you? Is that just an inconvenience to you?
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 12:53 pm
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