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Who gets left out ?

Posted on 11/6/25 at 11:23 am
Posted by LSUguy2023
St. George
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 11:23 am
Ohio State 12-0
Indiana 12-0
Alabama 11-1
Ole Miss 11-1

Texas A&M 11-1
Oregon 11-1
Texas Tech 11-1
BYU 11-1

ACC
G5

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Notre Dame 10-2
Texas 10-2
Georgia 10-2
Vanderbilt 10-2
Utah 10-2

Posted by Ostrich
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 11:25 am to
Is this a scenario where conference championship games don’t exist?
Posted by saturday
Pronoun (Baw)
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 11:27 am to
Is it really possible for there to be 6 SEC teams with only 1 or two losses?
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 11:27 am to
These threads are pointless on 11/6, but in this scenario Notre Dame & Texas are in.

Texas beats UGA head to head

ETA: UGA has a better argument over ND, but it’s ND
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 11:29 am
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 11:36 am to
You know damn well ND ain’t getting left out lol
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 11:51 am to
Why did you include Vanderbilt and Utah to make it seem harder than it actually is?

It's Georgia vs Texas vs ND.

While ND is almost guaranteed to get in if they win out, this is a scenario where they could get left out especially if Georgia Tech keeps winning.
Texas would have the Georgia and A&M wins to end the season, so they would be in for sure. Would come down to ND vs Georgia. And I think Georgia would have the better resume.

With that being said.....in a scenario like this, a team you have above the line, BYU, would not be safe at all.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
24905 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 11:56 am to
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Is it really possible for there to be 6 SEC teams with only 1 or two losses?
Yes with the remaining SEC regular season schedule and assuming no upsets to teams not in contention.

Bama (1 loss) - LSU, Oklahoma, Auburn

Ole Miss (1 loss) - Florida, Miss State

A&M (0 losses) - Missouri, South Carolina, Texas

Texas (2 losses) - Georgia, Arkansas, A&M

Georgia (1 loss) - Miss State, Texas

Vandy (2 losses) - Auburn, Kentucky, Tennessee


OP's scenario is possible if Texas beats both Georgia and A&M....and everyone else wins out.

Bama would be in the SEC title game with no conference losses.

Ole Miss, A&M, and Texas would all have 1 loss in SEC play and the tie breaker gets complicated. The only H2H matchup between those 3 would be Texas beating A&M in this hypothetical. So if I understand the tiebreakers correctly, A&M would be out. Then it would come down to record vs common opponents for Texas and Ole Miss. Ole Miss' only SEC loss would be to Georgia (not a common opponent) while Texas would have a loss to Florida (common opponent). So I think Ole Miss would win the tiebreaker and go on to play Bama in the title game.

I'm not 100% certain that I'm right on the tiebreaker though because I'm not sure if the H2H tiebreaker is relevant since only 2 of the 3 tied teams played each other.

ETA: so found out that H2H would not be relevant at all in this 3 way tie scenario since all 3 teams didn't play each other. Goes to record vs common opponents, which would eliminate Texas because of the Florida loss. Ole Miss and A&M would go to the SEC's 5th tiebreaker....some sort of "capped relative scoring margin" formula.

This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 12:20 pm
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
15391 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:03 pm to
Apparently the tie breaker would be between Ole Miss & A&M in that situation.

Tie breaker calculator: LINK
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

Texas Tech 11-1
BYU 11-1
Utah 10-2


BYU and Texas Tech would play each other in the Big 12 title game. Loser of that game is out. Neither of them play a tough enough schedule to still get into the CFP with a 2nd loss.

Utah shouldn't even be in this hypothetical to begin with because they already have losses to both Texas Tech and BYU. In your scenario, there's absolutely zero chance that the Big 12 gets 3 teams in.

If Utah is going to get into the CFP, they either need a few SEC teams to lose or they need to win the Big 12 title game. To get a spot in the Big 12 title game, they would need BYU to beat Texas Tech this weekend and then for TTU to lose to either UCF or West Virginia.


This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 12:10 pm
Posted by SECCaptain
Member since Jun 2025
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

Notre Dame 10-2
Texas 10-2


Oh you sweet summer child
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
24905 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Apparently the tie breaker would be between Ole Miss & A&M in that situation.

Tie breaker calculator: LINK


Link isn't working.

But I found something else that says in a 3 way tie, the H2H is not used unless all 3 teams played each other. So it would automatically go to the 2nd tiebreaker....record vs common opponents. The Florida loss would knock Texas out there and it would be down to Ole Miss vs A&M on the 5th tiebreaker.....some sort of relative scoring metric formula.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
15391 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

BYU and Texas Tech would play each other in the Big 12 title game. Loser of that game is out.


An 11 win team isn’t missing the CFP
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:22 pm to
Would like ND to lose again.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
31953 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

Why did you include Vanderbilt and Utah to make it seem harder than it actually is?

There's a good chance Utah wins the B12
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
15391 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:31 pm to
Not in this scenario with BYU & TT both at 11-1
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
31953 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Not in this scenario with BYU & TT both at 11-1

BYU is going to lose at least two games. Texas Tech will likely lose one more. Utah wins out they're in the conference championship
If BYU somehow beats Texas Tech, Utah wins out and beats BYU, they're in the playoff
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
24905 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

An 11 win team isn’t missing the CFP


An 11-2 team that will likely only have 1 win vs a ranked team all year probably is getting left out when you potentially have 10 teams with 10+ wins among the SEC, B1G, and Notre Dame. Plus the ACC and G5 champ.

I think the final spot in OP's hypothetical scenario would come down to 11-2 BYU / TTU or 10-2 Vandy. Vandy will have played a tougher schedule IMO.

If the Big 12 is going to get a 2nd team in (barring some big upsets), I think that it would have to be 12-0 BYU losing in the conference title game.
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 12:41 pm
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
31953 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

I think the final spot in OP's hypothetical scenario would come down to 11-2 BYU / TTU or 10-2

You can't leave Utah out. There'll be 10-2 and likely win the B12 Championship.
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 12:46 pm
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
24905 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

BYU is going to lose at least two games. Texas Tech will likely lose one more.


Anything is possible, but the only ranked opponent left on either of their schedules is when they play each other this weekend.

Utah already lost to both TTU and BYU, so the Utes really need BYU to win this weekend and then TTU to drop another 1 of their final 2.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:45 pm to
BYU will be out of the playoff discussion in two weeks
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 12:46 pm
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