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Yieldmax changes all etfs to weekly
Posted on 10/15/25 at 8:11 am
Posted on 10/15/25 at 8:11 am
ULTY has been consistent since they switched it. I think this is a great move.
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 4:41 pm to Jjdoc
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ULTY has been consistent since they switched it. I think this is a great move.
Biggest issue with YM is the NAV decay, not the timing of the dividends.
UTLY is different since it holds the underlying funds instead of having synthetic covered calls. It still has some NAV decay, but not as bad.
YM announced they will be launching several new funds that will address the NAV issue. My question is, why invest in the old YM funds now if they are switching tactics?
I have a small amount of UTLY and will hold it. I sold all my MSTY after the last dividend and I’m not going to touch another YM fund. I’ve moved everything over to XDTE.
Posted on 10/15/25 at 4:49 pm to Suntiger
I've been trading GDXY lately, it's all over the place and lately I've been making more just trading it than I would taking their distributions.
I have small positions in a lot of income ETF's so my eggs aren't in one basket, TSYY is kind of the cash cow at the moment although I want to be out of it by Q4 earnings announcements as I expect Tesla to struggle.
I have small positions in a lot of income ETF's so my eggs aren't in one basket, TSYY is kind of the cash cow at the moment although I want to be out of it by Q4 earnings announcements as I expect Tesla to struggle.
Posted on 10/15/25 at 5:28 pm to Suntiger
Per YM the nav is why they changed all of them to weekly.
Posted on 10/15/25 at 5:56 pm to Jjdoc
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Per YM the nav is why they changed all of them to weekly.
It buys them six more months of grifting and their YouTube team proclaiming how solid the funds became since the strategy change. …rinse repeat.
Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:35 pm to Jjdoc
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Per YM the nav is why they changed all of them to weekly.
How would paying weekly impact NAV decay? That’s like saying the breaks in my car don’t work, but I’m going to start putting gas in it twice a week now to make it safer.
Posted on 10/15/25 at 8:28 pm to Suntiger
It’s remarkable YM was on record just a couple of months ago stating accounting issues and time limitations made weekly payouts incompatible with most of their fund strategies.
But, I guess they decided the only solution is more distributions.
But, I guess they decided the only solution is more distributions.
Posted on 10/15/25 at 9:03 pm to lsuconnman
Obviously with the mass exodus from their funds, they are no longer collecting those fat fees.
At least going to weekly distributions might invite a bit more trading, and bump off the volume a bit. Collecting a few more fees before the lights are turned off
At least going to weekly distributions might invite a bit more trading, and bump off the volume a bit. Collecting a few more fees before the lights are turned off
Posted on 10/15/25 at 9:31 pm to UltimaParadox
I read a profound statement from a fund manager that said the market has become so saturated with cc ETFs that it’s become virtually impossible to identify enough uniquely volatile stocks to keep a fund sustainable. Consequently they’re all racing to get the most extreme strategies to market to squeeze the turnip before the appetite dries up.
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:26 pm to Suntiger
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I’ve moved everything over to XDTE.
i bailed out all my YM ETFs. the only roundhill i have is............XDTE
Posted on 10/16/25 at 8:32 am to Fat Bastard
I moved over to xdte as well. But, honestly my vanguard utilities and precious metal ETFs have destroyed the xdte returns, and I also question if they will fare better in a market downturn.
Xdte’s chart is the perfect example of what can happen after a sharp downturn, 5% vs qqq’s 15% since 4/1.
Xdte’s chart is the perfect example of what can happen after a sharp downturn, 5% vs qqq’s 15% since 4/1.
Posted on 10/16/25 at 9:10 am to lsuconnman
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But, honestly my vanguard utilities and precious metal ETFs
What do you own?
Posted on 10/16/25 at 9:20 am to SidewalkTiger
VPU, VGPMX
Posted on 10/16/25 at 4:23 pm to lsuconnman
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I read a profound statement from a fund manager that said the market has become so saturated with cc ETFs that it’s become virtually impossible to identify enough uniquely volatile stocks to keep a fund sustainable. Consequently they’re all racing to get the most extreme strategies to market to squeeze the turnip before the appetite dries up.
That sounds about right.
SCHD and VYM are my main dividend funds. Those with some REITs, BDC and preferred stock funds make up most of my dividend funds. The rest are cc funds, but I’ve tried to diversify over several funds to make sure if one goes sideways I don’t take too much of a loss. I’ve got some JEPQ, SPYI, XDTE, QYLG, XYLD, GPIQ, BITO, UTLY & XDTE. Not a lot separates them besides BITO and UTLY. My “safer” cc funds are DIVO and QDVO.
I don’t know if this will ultimately work out, but I’m trying to protect myself with the more risky funds.
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