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A Solution to the Review Problem
Posted on 8/31/25 at 11:31 am
Posted on 8/31/25 at 11:31 am
In the case of the Barion Brown overturned catch call, this is how replay SHOULD work:
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When a team challenges a call, the rules analyst/expert that is called upon by the broadcast crew for rules clarifications should be the one on the other end of the headset talking to the referee. NOT someone hundreds of miles away in the conference office. That rules expert is there, on-site and is as non-partisan as it gets. He should be relaying the rules to the white hat on the field and helps them come up with a ruling.
THEN, once the call is "upheld" or "overturned," he gets on the mic with the commentators and explains what happened during the review process because the refs don't explain a damn thing.
It'd be transparent and informative.
I'm so tired of this game still being left up to human error when we have 96 different camera angles on every play.
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When a team challenges a call, the rules analyst/expert that is called upon by the broadcast crew for rules clarifications should be the one on the other end of the headset talking to the referee. NOT someone hundreds of miles away in the conference office. That rules expert is there, on-site and is as non-partisan as it gets. He should be relaying the rules to the white hat on the field and helps them come up with a ruling.
THEN, once the call is "upheld" or "overturned," he gets on the mic with the commentators and explains what happened during the review process because the refs don't explain a damn thing.
It'd be transparent and informative.
I'm so tired of this game still being left up to human error when we have 96 different camera angles on every play.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 11:41 am to WackyChris
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When a team challenges a call, the rules analyst/expert that is called upon by the broadcast crew for rules clarifications should be the one on the other end of the headset talking to the referee. NOT someone hundreds of miles away in the conference office. That rules expert is there, on-site and is as non-partisan as it gets. He should be relaying the rules to the white hat on the field and helps them come up with a ruling.
I think it would be cool if he was on the audio feed between the replay crew and the on-field ref so he could tell us how they were talking about it, but the "rules expert" that Kirk and Chris talk to is just an ABC employee like them. He's not employed anymore by the NCAA or the conferences. He has no official capacity.
I'm not sure it really matters anyway whether the replay official is watching it on a TV in the booth or a TV 500 miles away in NYC or Birmingham. They are still watching the exact same thing and talking to the exact same person on the field.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 11:47 am to WackyChris
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When a team challenges a call, the rules analyst/expert that is called upon by the broadcast crew for rules clarifications should be the one on the other end of the headset talking to the referee. NOT someone hundreds of miles away in the conference office.
You realize the rules analyst is hundreds of miles away too, right?
Posted on 8/31/25 at 11:54 am to WackyChris
The solution is put those guys on TV live as they discuss out loud the undisputable evidence to over turn the call on the field, so they can't hide from the public while making bank on their decisions.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 12:14 pm to TigerFanatic99
Weren’t they SEC officials? If anything it would have been an advantage for LSU.
It was the right call. Too many people are losing their minds over it but unfortunately it was the right call.
1) While had control, he was still in the process of completing the catch.
2) While the ball can hit the ground as long as you maintain possession, it hitting the ground cannot jar it loose, which it did.
3) You cannot have the ball hit the ground and then regain control while out of bounds. You had to have complete control in bounds.
It sucks and was a great effort by Brown, but the tv analysts aren’t infallible and any more qualified than the review officials.
Woo have preferred the call not be overturned? Sure, but by the rules the right decision was made.
It was the right call. Too many people are losing their minds over it but unfortunately it was the right call.
1) While had control, he was still in the process of completing the catch.
2) While the ball can hit the ground as long as you maintain possession, it hitting the ground cannot jar it loose, which it did.
3) You cannot have the ball hit the ground and then regain control while out of bounds. You had to have complete control in bounds.
It sucks and was a great effort by Brown, but the tv analysts aren’t infallible and any more qualified than the review officials.
Woo have preferred the call not be overturned? Sure, but by the rules the right decision was made.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 12:19 pm to WackyChris
Or how bout they get rid of all refs that are stupid and hire ones that actually care about doing their jobs properly?
Posted on 8/31/25 at 12:23 pm to WackyChris
Simplify the rules
Break the plane with ball control. TD. Anything involving the end zone with possession and a foot down. TD.
Outside the end zone, ground can’t cause a fumble. Catch.
Break the plane with ball control. TD. Anything involving the end zone with possession and a foot down. TD.
Outside the end zone, ground can’t cause a fumble. Catch.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 12:48 pm to Geauxgurt
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It was the right call.
No.
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1) While had control, he was still in the process of completing the catch.
No.
He scored when he crossed the goal line/hit the pylon.
The problem is we had refs who didn't know what intentional grounding or holding was, so it's understandable that they wouldn't know a touchdown when they saw it.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 12:56 pm to Geauxgurt
If you make a diving catch of the ball and seemingly have position as you cross the plane of the end zone mid-air, it’s a touchdown provided that you survive the catch after hitting the ground. If you don’t, then it’s an incompletion and the touchdown is nullified.
If you make a catch of the ball and seemingly have possession while crossing the plane of the end zone AND also come down with your fee, or in college, one foot in-bounds, the play has ended, and it’s. a reception for a touchdown.
The reason for this is because realistically, the receiver eventually has to hand the ball or toss the ball to a ref, complete the game, board the bus, return to campus, graduate, maybe get married and have children, eat meals, live life, pay taxes, and eventually die. At some point the play has to end and the catch had to be ruled on. Definitively, the catch was made, the touchdown should have counted, and life moves on.
If you make a catch of the ball and seemingly have possession while crossing the plane of the end zone AND also come down with your fee, or in college, one foot in-bounds, the play has ended, and it’s. a reception for a touchdown.
The reason for this is because realistically, the receiver eventually has to hand the ball or toss the ball to a ref, complete the game, board the bus, return to campus, graduate, maybe get married and have children, eat meals, live life, pay taxes, and eventually die. At some point the play has to end and the catch had to be ruled on. Definitively, the catch was made, the touchdown should have counted, and life moves on.
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