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ESPN Story on the 1988 Saints and how football took its toll
Posted on 8/18/25 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 8/18/25 at 3:39 pm
ESPN
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or years, Jakes has carried the weight of those four defensive teammates, all of whom died before the age of 50.
In all, 10 men from the list of 56 rostered players on the 1988 New Orleans Saints have died. Only one of them reached the age of 60. Many of the others, mostly now in their 60s, are coming to terms with their own mortality and a declining quality of life they attribute to football.
Waymer was the first to die, in the spring of 1993, of an irregular heartbeat caused by cocaine toxicity. He was 34. His funeral was packed with speechless young mourners.
Vaughan Johnson’s death in 2019 hit Jakes particularly hard. They were roommates for three years in New Orleans and had talked just a week earlier. VJ, who was 57, said he was doing fine, though he had multiple health issues and would later be confirmed to have Stage 3 chronic traumatic encephalopathy, the neurodegenerative disease tied to football and other contact sports.
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A handful of Johnson’s defensive mates, including Jakes, attended the funeral in Morehead City, North Carolina.
“You just don’t think things will happen at that young age,” Jakes said.
A year later, they lost linebacker James “Hitman” Haynes. The summer of 2022 brought more grief: Offensive tackle Daren Gilbert died at 58. A few months after, his wife, Alayna, emailed an ESPN reporter from her home outside Nashville. She was alarmed by the number of ’88 Saints who had died young.
“I’m writing to you because I have nowhere else to go,” she said.
Gilbert’s family had just donated his brain to Boston University’s Concussion Legacy Foundation, which later found that Daren had CTE.
Alayna Gilbert said that in addition to the teammates who had died, “The players who are surviving are suffering from countless chronic illnesses.”
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Her email led ESPN to team with KFF, an independent health policy research, polling and news organization, on a survey of the 1,532 NFL players from 1988, including families for the 128 who were deceased at the time of the survey. More than a third of the players or their survivors participated in the lengthy survey, answering questions about not only their physical health but also their mental, financial and family well-being as they enter their senior years.
While the respondents reported experiencing pain, loneliness, depression, anxiety and disabilities at much higher rates than average U.S. men their age, roughly 90% said they’d play football again if given the chance. The finding held even among those who said football had negatively impacted their physical and mental health.
The ’88 Saints are a rough microcosm of the study. In dozens of interviews with ESPN, they chronicled numerous surgeries and multiple maladies that they live with every day.
Posted on 8/18/25 at 4:06 pm to TigerB8
Maybe the most positive thread on this board for two days.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 6:11 am to TigerB8
1988…when they still played real football!
Look…these guys aren’t victims. They knew this is (or was) a high risk/high reward endeavor. Think about the stat that 90% of them would play again if they had the chance.
Even knowing what they know today, the tradeoff was worth it. Enough said…
Look…these guys aren’t victims. They knew this is (or was) a high risk/high reward endeavor. Think about the stat that 90% of them would play again if they had the chance.
Even knowing what they know today, the tradeoff was worth it. Enough said…
Posted on 8/19/25 at 6:24 am to Recoveringcajun
Easy for you to say that.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 12:50 pm to Recoveringcajun
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Even knowing what they know today, the tradeoff was worth it. Enough said…
Some of your sentiment is validated as in they love the sport. But I sincerely doubt that the tradeoff of death before the age of 60 was worth it. These guys had to pay the bills for their families and many of them left the game financially strapped. These players back then didn't know the constant impacts on their brains would destroy their brains by causing permanent PTSD. People didn't sign up wondering whether or not their families would donate their brains to science so research could be done to find out why they went bat shite crazy in the last couple years of their lives.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 8:57 pm to TigerB8
Vaughan Johnson once had 18 tackles in 2 quarters of a preseason game
Posted on 8/19/25 at 9:27 pm to TigerB8
second time watching it.
At times I'm just as guilty as anyone else complaining about the quality of play compared to when I was growing up.
but then you hear horror stories from former players across the league and realize the toll it's taken on their lives.
you understand why things are set up the way they are now. It's lame at times because of the officiating but what else is new there?
I had a concussion in the 11th grade and was miserable all night afterwards. Throwing up and wanting to sleep because my body was tired, but I couldn't have slept if I wanted to because of the ringing pain in my head.
and that was just one time.
At times I'm just as guilty as anyone else complaining about the quality of play compared to when I was growing up.
but then you hear horror stories from former players across the league and realize the toll it's taken on their lives.
you understand why things are set up the way they are now. It's lame at times because of the officiating but what else is new there?
I had a concussion in the 11th grade and was miserable all night afterwards. Throwing up and wanting to sleep because my body was tired, but I couldn't have slept if I wanted to because of the ringing pain in my head.
and that was just one time.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:07 pm to LooseCannon22282
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I had a concussion in the 11th grade and was miserable all night afterwards. Throwing up and wanting to sleep because my body was tired, but I couldn't have slept if I wanted to because of the ringing pain in my head.
I am confused. What position did you play on the 1988 Saints?
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:25 pm to UncleLester
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I am confused.
No shite
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:26 pm to UncleLester
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I am confused. What position did you play on the 1988 Saints
Unnecessary dick comment, Lester.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:29 pm to cbree88
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Unnecessary dick comment, Lester.
Credit to me for not asking if he did Cocaine in his 30’s like Dave Waymer as well.
Posted on 8/19/25 at 10:42 pm to LooseCannon22282
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I had a concussion in the 11th grade and was miserable all night afterwards. Throwing up and wanting to sleep because my body was tired, but I couldn't have slept if I wanted to because of the ringing pain in my head.
I had the same thing happen in the 8th grade. I remember walking around in a daze while my coach walks up and tells oh you'll be ok you just got your bell rung. I went home and was met by my father and a big pile of dirt that we just had delivered. He proceeds to hand me a shovel and says have a good time. I did not snap out of it until sometime late the next afternoon.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 8:11 am to TigerB8
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quarterback Bobby Hebert said…“Man, I had girlfriends that you wouldn’t believe.”
He would say this to anyone, including a chick reporter hahah
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