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Fender Tone Master Deluxe Reverb
Posted on 7/13/25 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 7/13/25 at 11:02 pm
A couple of weeks ago I bought a TMDR, black. I am really struggling to make any dirt pedal sound good. They all sound fuzzy and buzzy in a bad way. I have tried 3 different firmware updates. They *might* help a little but they dont fix the issue. I can get a multieffects unit, Valeton GP-200 to be OK but none of my analog pedals sound good. Even if they kind of sound ok at first, to my ear they get buzzy within 5 minutes.
I am on the verge of taking this back to GC but wanted to see if the hive mind has any thoughts or suggestions.
TIA!
I am on the verge of taking this back to GC but wanted to see if the hive mind has any thoughts or suggestions.
TIA!
Posted on 7/14/25 at 7:33 am to composerdave
My neighbor has a 3 year old TMDR and all his pedals sound very thin through it and it drives him crazy. I saw this post and for a second thought it was him.
I have a Fender GTX 100 that we mic that really sounds great so he's constantly bitching about his setup and how he's going to sell it at Guitar Center. IMO the Deluxe is great clean but everything we've tried, Ibanez Tube Screamer, Donner Alpha Crunch, etc all sound buzzy and thin.
Just here to say I've seen the same thing you're dealing with.
I have a Fender GTX 100 that we mic that really sounds great so he's constantly bitching about his setup and how he's going to sell it at Guitar Center. IMO the Deluxe is great clean but everything we've tried, Ibanez Tube Screamer, Donner Alpha Crunch, etc all sound buzzy and thin.
Just here to say I've seen the same thing you're dealing with.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 7:34 am
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:18 am to composerdave
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I am on the verge of taking this back to GC but wanted to see if the hive mind has any thoughts or suggestions.
Take it back and get a real Deluxe Reverb or Princeton. If you want to go big, you can always find a Twin Reverb for <$900.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:54 am to composerdave
Take the target OD pedals with you to GC and set up an A/B with the TMDR and an all-tube Fender BF or SF reissue of some sort in your preferred size/weight and see if you get better results.
Also, there is a reason the Fender Twin Reverb - BF, SF, RIs - is the most common backline amp in the business. Big, rich, gorgeous cleans with seemingly infinite headroom ... and they love any and all pedals, modelers, fly-rigs, whatever you juice them with. The only drawback is they are big and heavy - which is why I mentioned start with preferred size/weight tube Fenders.
For what it's worth, the best pedal host amp I've ever used in my playing life was an early 70s SS rectifier non-master vol SFTR. MV comps from the mid-70s can probably be found in the current market for around what you paid for that TMDR. And if you're in BR, I have an amp tech that can make that amp SING.
Also, there is a reason the Fender Twin Reverb - BF, SF, RIs - is the most common backline amp in the business. Big, rich, gorgeous cleans with seemingly infinite headroom ... and they love any and all pedals, modelers, fly-rigs, whatever you juice them with. The only drawback is they are big and heavy - which is why I mentioned start with preferred size/weight tube Fenders.
For what it's worth, the best pedal host amp I've ever used in my playing life was an early 70s SS rectifier non-master vol SFTR. MV comps from the mid-70s can probably be found in the current market for around what you paid for that TMDR. And if you're in BR, I have an amp tech that can make that amp SING.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 5:39 pm to TheFretShack
Thanks all!
I just tried an experiment. I ran a Blues Driver Waza into the Valeton then to the TMDR. Sounds good. Then I switched the order, Valeton into the BDw into the TMDR. Sounds awful. Buzzy, fizzy.
Oddly, when I recorded them both (just on my iPhone) the difference was minimal. But in the room, it was a big difference. It sounds like the amp sims in the Valeton are compensating when the BDw goes into it. But the TMDR doesn't like seeing the output directly from the BDw.
I like (not necessarily love) the amp with the Valeton. But with pedals, I hate it. Since I have a large pedal collection, I dont think I can use an amp that doesnt play well.
Thanks for the input!!
I just tried an experiment. I ran a Blues Driver Waza into the Valeton then to the TMDR. Sounds good. Then I switched the order, Valeton into the BDw into the TMDR. Sounds awful. Buzzy, fizzy.
Oddly, when I recorded them both (just on my iPhone) the difference was minimal. But in the room, it was a big difference. It sounds like the amp sims in the Valeton are compensating when the BDw goes into it. But the TMDR doesn't like seeing the output directly from the BDw.
I like (not necessarily love) the amp with the Valeton. But with pedals, I hate it. Since I have a large pedal collection, I dont think I can use an amp that doesnt play well.
Thanks for the input!!
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