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How many of yall have talked someone out of going to graduate school?
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:07 pm
Americans don’t get advanced degrees in STEM. It’s cultural.
I’m the only American PhD student in my line of sight at my university.
I’m the only American PhD student in my line of sight at my university.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 7:08 pm
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:10 pm to The Baker
You had to in geology to get a job. And geology is a science. I'd say only in computer science and engineering a graduate degree is not needed.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:11 pm to The Baker
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advanced degrees in stem
The marketplace doesn't really value it.
I have one.
Largely was a waste.
Tuition waved and stipend seemed nice.
But, it delayed real earnings.
Additionally, it kept me out of many roles as I was "overeducated".
Maybe, it'll pay off in later career?
But, since late 90s or so R&D has largely been gutted in America.
It's tough for STEM PhD, even MS to find a niche.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:13 pm to The Baker
I usually encourage people to stay in school for as long as possible, telling them that it is a helluva lot more fun in school than it is when you get out into the real world.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:16 pm to The Baker
I'm 15 days shy of finishing my MBA. It wasn't an expensive one. Something to pad my resume when it comes time to move to a job I'm trying to get. I'll be infinitely more prepared when that opportunity arises. I would definitely talk someone out of getting an expensive one.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:28 pm to The Baker
I’ve tried to talk people out of going to shitty law schools, even good ones aren’t worth it for most people.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:28 pm to Privateer 2007
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The marketplace doesn't really value it.
Patently false.
Maybe middle income jobs dont give a damn, but you wont have access to top tier companies like FAANG, Nvidia, Hedge funds… etc
That’s what the Chinese students are after while Boudreaux is happy to work a plant.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:33 pm to TheWalrus
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I’ve tried to talk people out of going to shitty law schools, even good ones aren’t worth it for most people.
Id say that’s a different discussion
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:35 pm to The Baker
Talked myself out of it. Some of the biggest idiots I worked with had an MBA
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:45 pm to The Baker
A JD is more valuable than most masters degrees
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:45 pm to The Baker
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marketplace doesn't value it
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patently false
Chemistry, Chem E, Physics, Molecular Biology, Materials science etc
It's a waste.
There's no place for them.
Comp Sci and related might be different.
But, hedge funds etc you have to know the right people.
High end consulting is the same.
I saw kids I was TA for getting jobs out of school w McKinsey, BCG, etc. Meanwhile, I couldn't get response from same companies.
I'm not saying it's right, just stating facts.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:49 pm to Privateer 2007
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But, hedge funds etc you have to know the right people. High end consulting is the same.
My lab mate (from shanghai) is year ahead of me and he just interviewed with Renaissance for a quant role. They want math, physics, and engineering PhD’s exclusively. There is zero nepotism in a place like that.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:58 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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I'd say only in computer science
Read today not the best degree to have right now
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Many of the tasks that used to serve as a training ground for junior employees, like data entry, research, and handling basic customer or employee requests, are already being delegated to AI. Technical fields like computer science and finance are getting hit especially hard.
While employment for people older than 27 in computer science and mathematical occupations has grown a modest 0.8% since 2022, employment for those aged 22-27, or recent graduates, has declined by 8%, according to a May report from labor market research firm Oxford Economics. That’s compared to college graduates in all other occupations, who saw 2% employment gains.
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. Cutting jobs, or freezing hiring, are ways to do that. “We are starting to see the ripple effects of companies that have invested a lot of money into artificial intelligence, wanting to show that they’re actually getting something out of it,” he says.
Meta reportedly plans to use AI to review the platform’s privacy and societal risks instead of human staffers. At Microsoft, CEO Satya Nadella said in April that around 30% of code is now written by AI, a reality that likely factored into recent layoffs. And the CEO of payments platform Klarna has openly admitted last month that AI helped the company cut its workforce by around 40%
Grads struggling to find jobs
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