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If Trump folds like Regean and gives amnesty to illegals, Republicans are cooked forever

Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:39 pm

Posted by stout

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Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:39 pm

Reagan signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act in ’86, turning Cali blue forever.

From 1968 to 1988, California voted Republican in every presidential election but since 1992, it’s been blue and not even really close.

Now today, Trump’s walking it back, saying they want to find a way not to hurt farmers by taking away their labor. That’s not what I voted for. If he starts talking amnesty or some “easier path,” say goodbye to Texas too.

This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 3:04 pm

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Posted by AU86

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Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:45 pm to stout

Truth

It will be the largest betrayal since Reagan gave them California.

Allowing them to stay is basically amnesty. This would give them the nation.

Demographics is Destiny

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Posted by tigerskin

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Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:49 pm to stout

While not disagreeing with your post, I have a question:

All that construction you deal with, y'all don't
have any illegals? Just curious

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Posted by stout

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Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:56 pm to tigerskin

No

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Posted by John Barron

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Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:57 pm to stout

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Now today, Trump’s walking it back

Unfortunately he has been doing this alot.

1. Said Zelensky would have to Recognize Crimea and the 4 oblast and End the War. Zelensky told him no and he was OK with that, started to let Lindsey Graham be front and center on Ukraine

2. Had tough Tariffs on China which was the proper way to make China negotiate a deal quickly. Wall Street started selling and Trump could not tolerate Wall Street throwing a tantrum so he gave China a 90 day extension which will allow China to keep playing BS games with us.

3. Now we see him back peddling after the LA Riots on Illegal Immigration. Once again a little turmoil and he starts to change his tune

The bottom line is the Deepstate/Globalist know Trump's weakness. He does not like bad press coverage so anything they can do to try and give him that they will. Its better than the Alternative of open borders like before but hopefully he doesn't go full retard like Reagan did

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Posted by DarthRebel

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Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:58 pm to stout

Those illegals are already voting in California

California is left leaning thanks to white and black people. One could almost make an argument Trump could setup Vance to win CA with amnesty.

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Posted by TigerRoyale

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Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:59 pm to stout

Reagan gave us gun control, immigration unfettered and runaway spending. He's not a hero of the right.

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Posted by tigerskin

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Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:00 pm to stout

Got it. Would guess you are an outlier there

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Posted by JackieTreehorn

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Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:01 pm to stout

Reagan was such a gullible idiot to do that. It ruined us. Those 5 million have multiplied like bunnies and here we are.

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Posted by aTmTexas Dillo

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Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:02 pm to DarthRebel

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One could almost make an argument Trump could setup Vance to win CA with amnesty.

It's amazing how few contributors here on the Poli get this. No imagination.

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Posted by Jay Quest

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Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:02 pm to stout

Reagan trusted Tip O'Neal. You have to wonder how Reagan could have been so easily duped by a professional liar.

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Posted by AU86

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Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:03 pm to JackieTreehorn

Reagan fell for a lying Democrat in Tip O' Neil. The Democrats never followed through on their promises.

Never trust a Democrat.

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Posted by Kikicaca

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Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:04 pm to stout

Get a grip drama queen

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Posted by 14&Counting

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Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:04 pm to TigerRoyale

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Reagan gave us gun control, immigration unfettered and runaway spending. He's not a hero of the righ

Reagan got sold a bill of goods on that immigration deal. It was supposed to offer amnesty in exchange for border security and restrictions on immigration. Probably seemed a reasonable compromise back in 1986. Of course the Democrats had no intention of ever honoring it.

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Posted by RLDSC FAN

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Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:04 pm to stout

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Now today, Trump’s walking it back, saying they want to find a way not to hurt farmers by taking away their labor. That’s not what I voted for. If he starts talking amnesty or some “easier path,” say goodbye to Texas too.

Kudos for calling it out

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Posted by AU86

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Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:06 pm to aTmTexas Dillo

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It's amazing how few contributors here on the Poli get this. No imagination.

So did it work that away when Reagan did it? How many legal Hispanics would it alienate that are opposed to these illegals?

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Posted by SDVTiger

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Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:12 pm to stout

He should give DACA citzenship and anyone whose been here for a long time they need to pay a Piso monthly for at least a year

Then pledge loyalty to Orange the great

Shores up the Latino vote for life

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Posted by Tiger on the Rag

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Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:13 pm to stout

Did I miss something?

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Posted by DarthRebel

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Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:16 pm to aTmTexas Dillo

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It's amazing how few contributors here on the Poli get this. No imagination.

I love the DVs, when presenting factual possibilities.

At the end of the day, we need strong borders to prevent undocumented influx. At the same time you have an opportunity to win over the largest growing part of American diversity. The blacks will forever be lost to the Democratic part, however over the last 50 years they have remained a consistent 11%-13% of the population. Meanwhile hispanics have grown from 5% to 18.7% of the population (census only). In the last election hispanic men went 55% for Trump. White men were 60% for Trump, while black men were just 21% for Trump.

Solidify the borders, but do not ignore the long game. Hispanics are very good conservative people.

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Posted by SouthEasternKaiju

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Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:17 pm to stout

Reagan's focus was bringing down the Soviet Union.

He never could imagine that R & D's both would sell out their country to a flood of illegals.

I don't think he sold out, I think he was blindsided by how evil the Globalists truly are.

Trump knows them and will call them out like Reagan never would.

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