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Elon and EV subsidies
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:39 pm
Just posted a clip in another thread where Johnson claims Elon is lashing out because EV subsidies are going away because green new deal initiatives are being cut.
I like Elon more than Johnson but if true Elon needs to realize the subsides he’s getting is a lot of unnecessary spending.
Curious to see where both sides MAGA and Conservatives stand on this one, preferably without the drama.
I like Elon more than Johnson but if true Elon needs to realize the subsides he’s getting is a lot of unnecessary spending.
Curious to see where both sides MAGA and Conservatives stand on this one, preferably without the drama.
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:43 pm to momentoftruth87
The subsidies Elon has been saying he wants to go away since November when Trump won?
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:47 pm to momentoftruth87
Considering Elon said he’s stepping back from his government role to devote more time to running Tesla, it’s not much of a surprise that he’d be against the subsidy cuts.
He’s not going to agree with everything the current administration does. And that’s ok.
He’s not going to agree with everything the current administration does. And that’s ok.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:51 pm to PhtevenWithaV
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The subsidies Elon has been saying he wants to go away since November when Trump won?
This isn’t accurate. He is for reducing solar and wind. Tesla will take a huge hit with these subsidies gone. Regardless of what business it is losing billions of dollars and tax credits will hurt. Unless you can find a specific link showing he’s fine with it, specifically EV, I highly doubt he’s enthusiastic about losing money.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:02 pm to momentoftruth87
Elon is huge on Solar and tweets about it constantly. He doesn’t seem to care as much about EV subsidies because Tesla can handle it better than the ICE automakers so they will basically be the only EV company in the country.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:03 pm to momentoftruth87
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This isn’t accurate.
It is accurate. He doesn’t care about the EV subsidies. He does care about the clean energy tax credit going away though. Thats a significant motivator for consumers, to include commercial consumers and it’s a big part of Tesla’s business.
Doesn’t mean Elon is wrong though
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:03 pm to momentoftruth87
Musk definitely isn’t in favor of this action. But again, considering his livelihood, that’s no big shock. I doubt Elon’s clearly skewed opinion on this subject is much of a blip on Trump’s radar, tbh.
Musk, Tesla blast GOP plans to end clean energy tax credits
Musk, Tesla blast GOP plans to end clean energy tax credits
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Tesla late Wednesday criticized the Republican megabill for gutting clean energy tax credits, a message amplified by CEO Elon Musk hours after he announced he was leaving the Trump administration.
“Abruptly ending the energy tax credits would threaten America’s energy independence and the reliability of our grid,” Tesla Energy, the company’s solar and battery division, wrote on X.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:04 pm to Hookah
Are the Tesla roofs still a thing or have they faded?
ETA. Still a thing.
ETA. Still a thing.
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:05 pm to momentoftruth87
momentoftruth87 30 seconds before clicking Sumbit
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:09 pm to momentoftruth87
Elon is in favor of smaller government and free market for other people. He's been clear on that
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:12 pm to momentoftruth87
All his competitors rely on subsidies way more than Tesla. Will help not hurt, as others step away it brings them to Tesla
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:23 pm to roadGator
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Are the Tesla roofs still a thing or have they faded?
They aren’t a thing. Not in any form of ever being practical.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:24 pm to Smeg
What’s the meme from?
Note: I’m not commenting on the notion that that meme’s use is appropriate or not. That’s already been decided.
Note: I’m not commenting on the notion that that meme’s use is appropriate or not. That’s already been decided.
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:24 pm to OU Guy
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All his competitors rely on subsidies way more than Tesla. Will help not hurt, as others step away it brings them to Tesla
Undetermined until FEOC language is finalized. If other companies can avoid FEOC they could undercut him regardless of any subsidy.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:35 pm to OU Guy
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his competitors rely on subsidies way more than Tesla. Will help not hurt, as others step away it brings them to Tesla
As written today because his business got too big..... Tesla was built on government subsidies and a runaway valuation.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:41 pm to momentoftruth87
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This isn’t accurate. He is for reducing solar and wind.
He's against reducing solar and wind subsidies
https://x.com/teslaenergy/status/1927930314787016743
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Abruptly ending the energy tax credits would threaten America’s energy independence and the reliability of our grid - we urge the senate to enact legislation with a sensible wind down of 25D and 48e. This will ensure continued speedy deployment of over 60 GW capacity per year to support AI and domestic manufacturing growth.
But he is FOR eliminating EV subsidies https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1813112958157005259
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Take away the subsidies. It will only help Tesla.
Do any of you guys even listen to a word Elon says? Or do you all just wishcast whatever you want to hear into his mouth?
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:42 pm to billjamin
I haven’t seen the math work on any household solar.
Maybe it exists.
We turned away from several homes in Utah because basically a solar company had a lien on the home but of course it isn’t called that.
Maybe it exists.
We turned away from several homes in Utah because basically a solar company had a lien on the home but of course it isn’t called that.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:46 pm to roadGator
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I haven’t seen the math work on any household solar.
Maybe it exists.
It does. Especially if you take out the sales bro commission.
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We turned away from several homes in Utah because basically a solar company had a lien on the home but of course it isn’t called that.
Yeah it’s called a UCC1 fixture filing. It’s a lien that you don’t have to call a lien. The leases and ppas are tough because people take giant escalators for near term value then try to dump it off on the future occupant.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:49 pm to billjamin
I’d love to see how it can be successful. Living in the high desert it certainly appears to be possible but strangely there’s not much of them around. In a year in this house, we’ve only had one sales guy for solar and when my wife told him we weren’t staying much longer he happily left. I assume that crushed his sales pitch.
Now window cleaning guys. That’s another story. I’m about to turn the dogs loose on that fricker.
ETA: I’m not against solar but I haven’t been able to justify it for much but my camper. I’ve been watching video after video to get that done. I just don’t want to drill holes in my roof.
Now window cleaning guys. That’s another story. I’m about to turn the dogs loose on that fricker.
ETA: I’m not against solar but I haven’t been able to justify it for much but my camper. I’ve been watching video after video to get that done. I just don’t want to drill holes in my roof.
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 10:53 pm
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