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Alabama Open Fields Lawsuit

Posted on 5/21/25 at 8:19 pm
Posted by Big Dogris
Member since Nov 2023
11 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 8:19 pm
Posted by White Bear
SPECULATION
Member since Jul 2014
17124 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:30 pm to
Reckon how Tom Manuel’s suit is progressing? Same bunch helping Tom (IJ).
Posted by SwampMonster
Member since Feb 2025
592 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:25 pm to
They need to get a search warrant for private property…period.

You watch game warden shows on TV and they make a big deal of hunters trespassing private property to hunt yet its okay for them to go onto private property without exigent circumstances or a search warrant.

Open fields doctrine is unconstitutional and our Founding Fathers would never have tolerated agents of the State traipsing through their private estate looking for game violations.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49636 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 10:50 pm to
Pretty sure if they did that they would be mistaken for a deer in Washington County and our camp.

There is a first warning rule in Washington county, they warn you first to quit doing something illegal but frick other than spotlighting what’s fricking illegal now since baiting is legal as long as you buy a license.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19335 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:47 am to
quote:

They need to get a search warrant for private property…period.


Not in Alabama.

In Alabama they used to be used a lot to perform warrantless searches for a myriad of things, especially drugs. Even when there was a search warrant, local law enforcement liked them to be there because they were not bound by the details of a search warrants. For example, if a warrant allowed only a home to be searched, the game warden could search the barn, the workshop and anything else he wanted. Game wardens here like to brag they can come inside your home at any time. They like to brag they can arrest you for anything, not just game and fish laws. All because of the ruing that these guys are fighting.

So, Alabama game wardens were used in a myriad of warrantless searches, especially drug raids where a judge wouldn’t sign off on a search warrant. They would send them in first. Then one got killed. Afterwards fhe state did crack down a little on game wardens being involved in drug raids.

Game Warden Killed in Drug Raid

But a game warden can still go wherever his heart desires.

I hope these guys win. But I doubt it will change the attitude or procedures of most.

Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49636 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:32 pm to
Another link to this


LINK


This rubs right up against “stand your ground “ btw
Posted by White Bear
SPECULATION
Member since Jul 2014
17124 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

But a game warden can still go wherever his heart desires.
If it saves one deer….
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
15522 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Game wardens here like to brag they can come inside your home at any time.


They can't, but it benefits them to have folks believe that they can. They straight up lie about it every chance they get. They still have to establish probable cause and get a warrant to search your home. The open fields thing is what they use to justify rooting around in your ice chest on your patio, though.


quote:

They like to brag they can arrest you for anything, not just game and fish laws.


They have the same arrest powers as normal police if they encounter something like that.

quote:

So, Alabama game wardens were used in a myriad of warrantless searches, especially drug raids where a judge wouldn’t sign off on a search warrant. They would send them in first. Then one got killed. Afterwards fhe state did crack down a little on game wardens being involved in drug raids.

Game Warden Killed in Drug Raid


it says that the warden was killed while serving the warrant. Unless I missed something in the article it doesn't show that he was sent in first so the cops could get around not having a warrant.


If they want to search your house, don't let them unless they have a warrant.




This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 2:05 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49636 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:05 pm to
What can we do to support this lawsuit? Is there a petition effort or website etc
Posted by Big Dogris
Member since Nov 2023
11 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:12 pm to
We can donate to he Institute for Justice. IJ.org. They represent these landowners free of charge. They are supported across the country by donations from patriots.

We can also spread the word, tell our representatives about it, etc
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27016 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 5:35 am to
Texas Game Wardens have more power than nearly every Law Officer in the state.

Texas Game Wardens have the power to search property without a warrant, break locks and enter without a warrant if they suspect a violation of the Texas Parks and Wildlife code.
Posted by lv2bowhntAU
God's Country,a.k.a N. Alabama
Member since Jan 2011
3340 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:42 am to
Open Fields Doctrine should've never been a thing. Ive dealt with 2 of the GW's listed in the suit a few times over the years. One of them is not necessarily a bad guy. The Poole guy is 1000% someone who should never wear a badge or a gun. I've seen him firsthand harass multiple hunters and not once finding something to ticket for. He's also fond of riding 4 wheelers across property he doesn't have permission to be on just bc it's a sneakier way onto another person's private property. Even after the owner of the property told him he didn't want him anywhere on their place bc none of them hunt
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