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Info on what might be coming from new tax bill tomorrow regarding energy subsidies
Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:48 am
Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:48 am
We started getting leaks Friday and I spent a lot of the weekend on the phone talking about this. Will be interesting to see how accurate and if some of these can survive.
48E (ITC)/45Y (PTC): Commercial side of the tax code for solar and wind.
Phasedown till 2031
45U (Nuclear): Nuclear tax credit. Because these are long term tax credit this very well might destroy the nuclear industry if there isn't a safe harbor provision.
Phasedown till 2031
45Q (CCS): Carbon Capture
Safe
45Z (CFPC): Clean Fuel Production tax credit
extension till 2031 with phasedown
45X (Manufacturing PTC): Domestic manufacturing
phasedown till 2031
25D (Homeowner ITC): Individual solar tax credit
Eliminated
30D (EV): Individual EV purchases
Eliminated
30C(EV): Charging infrsatructure
Eliminated
45W (EV): Commercial EV purchases
Eliminated
45V (Hydrogen): Hydrogen production
Eliminated
Transferability: Ability to transfer or sell tax credits
at present, slated to end after 2 years (2026)
48E (ITC)/45Y (PTC): Commercial side of the tax code for solar and wind.
Phasedown till 2031
45U (Nuclear): Nuclear tax credit. Because these are long term tax credit this very well might destroy the nuclear industry if there isn't a safe harbor provision.
Phasedown till 2031
45Q (CCS): Carbon Capture
Safe
45Z (CFPC): Clean Fuel Production tax credit
extension till 2031 with phasedown
45X (Manufacturing PTC): Domestic manufacturing
phasedown till 2031
25D (Homeowner ITC): Individual solar tax credit
Eliminated
30D (EV): Individual EV purchases
Eliminated
30C(EV): Charging infrsatructure
Eliminated
45W (EV): Commercial EV purchases
Eliminated
45V (Hydrogen): Hydrogen production
Eliminated
Transferability: Ability to transfer or sell tax credits
at present, slated to end after 2 years (2026)
This post was edited on 5/12/25 at 11:50 am
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:50 am to billjamin
Man the transferability needs to be increased to more credits not less
Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:51 am to billjamin
out of all the things - why is carbon capture "safe". It is the dumbest "green" energy program out of all of them.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:51 am to billjamin
A lot of the subsidies are pissing away money. They should kill wind and solar completely.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:52 am to LazloHollyfeld
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out of all the things - why is carbon capture "safe". It is the dumbest "green" energy program out of all of them.
Because they had good lobbyist is all i can think of. I agree it's the worst of the bunch.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:53 am to momentoftruth87
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A lot of the subsidies are pissing away money. They should kill wind and solar completely.
I think we see some survive but with a requirement to have domestically made equipment at some %.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:56 am to LazloHollyfeld
This post was edited on 5/13/25 at 9:38 am
Posted on 5/12/25 at 11:57 am to momentoftruth87
Red states are cleaning up on IRA credits. Which makes sense so as much as he hates Biden they should leave it alone
Posted on 5/12/25 at 12:00 pm to Big4SALTbro
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Red states are cleaning up on IRA credits.
They've certainly been the big winner on a few fronts. Almost all of the domestic manufacturing capacity thats been built in the last 7 years is in deep red districts. MTG has thousands of people in her district that build solar panels as an example.
This post was edited on 5/12/25 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 5/12/25 at 2:33 pm to billjamin
Starting to get screenshots of specific language. Looks like this is all accurate so far.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 3:10 pm to billjamin
Carbon capture is a joke.
fricking GOP are heavily invested in this if I had to guess.
You know Landry is kissing arse begging for it.
fricking GOP are heavily invested in this if I had to guess.
You know Landry is kissing arse begging for it.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 4:07 pm to LazloHollyfeld
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out of all the things - why is carbon capture "safe". It is the dumbest "green" energy program out of all of them.
I disagree. If CO2 is actually a problem carbon capture is what allows us to continue using hydrocarbons. I know that’s a problematic “if” for many of you, but I think there is a significant chance that the problem is real.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 7:11 pm to Penrod
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If CO2 is actually a problem carbon capture is what allows us to continue using hydrocarbons. I know that’s a problematic “if” for many of you, but I think there is a significant chance that the problem is real.
I just don’t believe we can make any meaningful impact from it regardless of one’s beliefs about its impact.
I just can’t figure out why the other proven forms of carbon-less energy generation get whacked or sunset and the CCS survives unscathed. This just feels very lobbyist influenced to me.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 7:13 pm to Penrod
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I disagree. If CO2 is actually a problem carbon capture is what allows us to continue using hydrocarbons. I know that’s a problematic “if” for many of you, but I think there is a significant chance that the problem is real.
The CO2 that plants use dwarfs anything humans can create.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:04 pm to RohanGonzales
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The CO2 that plants use dwarfs anything humans can create.
Right - how about the focus is put on planting trees and reforestation - the Earths natural carbon capture; rather than spending billions of dollars injecting it into the ground where there is no guaranty it will stay where it is injected or the long term effects of such injection.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 8:06 pm to Penrod
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If CO2 is actually a problem carbon capture is what allows us to continue using hydrocarbons.
That's basically all it is. A front so we can continue to use hydrocarbons.
Posted on 5/12/25 at 9:30 pm to billjamin
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This just feels very lobbyist influenced to me.
That you can be sure of!
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