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Welfare queen farmers want a bailout.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:01 am
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:01 am
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Trump administration officials and lawmakers are considering aid for farmers as retaliation looms against U.S. tariffs. China and Canada have already levied duties on some of the top U.S. agricultural exports. During Trump's first term, farmers got $23 billion after an earlier round of tariffs.
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On Friday, China—a major export market for farmers—announced a 34% tariff on U.S. imports, after previously imposing an added 15% tariff on U.S.-grown chicken, wheat, corn, and cotton and a 10% levy on sorghum, soybeans, pork, beef, seafood, fruit, vegetables, and dairy products. In addition, Canada has levied 25% duties on goods worth $30 billion including peanut butter, orange juice, and coffee. The country also threatened to expand its tariffs to $155 billion worth of imported goods, including poultry, produce, and dairy products, if the U.S. maintains its trade policy. The European Union has threatened to retaliate against soybean, beef, and poultry farmers in the bloc’s effort to target red states.
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“We hope there will be a bailout,” Barry Evans, a sorghum and cotton farmer in Texas who sits on the board of directors for a sorghum grain trade group, told The Wall Street Journal. “If we don’t get something, it will be quite a disaster.”
It’s total bullshite if we give this group ANOTHER bailout. We are 32 trillion dollars in debt and we can’t afford to keep giving money we don’t have to these welfare queens. If no one is bailing out the average worker whose 401ks have plummeted, why would we bail out these farmers.
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:05 am to theronswanson
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If no one is bailing out the average worker whose 401ks have plummeted, why would we bail out these farmers.
Making sure farmers can keep farming seems like a good idea. I'm not well versed on this issue, I'm sure there is nuance... but food is good.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:05 am to theronswanson
Our food supply is a strength few nations have, so I don't have a major problem with aid going in that direction as opposed to proxy wars, corporate welfare, foreign aid and subsidizing inner city crime. Cut the others, then get to the farming question.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:07 am to theronswanson
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U.S.-grown chicken,
Where can I find a chicken tree? Didn’t know chicken was grown unless you count the lab made Beyond Meat Ch’ken products.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:09 am to SallysHuman
I’m ok subsidizing small family farms.
But not the huge corporate farms owned by the likes of Bill Gates and China.
But not the huge corporate farms owned by the likes of Bill Gates and China.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:10 am to SallysHuman
Sounds like food prices might go down with fewer dollars chasing the same amount of food
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:11 am to Rebel
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But not the huge corporate farms owned by the likes of Bill Gates and China.
I honestly don't know which scares me more... Bill gates farming or Chinese.. probably Bill Gates.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:13 am to Gee Grenouille
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Sounds like food prices might go down with fewer dollars chasing the same amount of food
Maybe... my limited understanding is that without help perhaps some or more of these farms cease, which would be less food.
On the other hand... how much of the subsidies are for feeding gas tanks instead of humans or livestock?
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:15 am to theronswanson
US Corn, wheat and rice futures rose last week.
Corn looks especially promising. This lowers the feed costs for beef.
There won’t need to be a bailout.
Corn looks especially promising. This lowers the feed costs for beef.
There won’t need to be a bailout.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:19 am to theronswanson
China cannot feed itself and has no choice but to import soy beans from the US... Not a situation they will win out on...
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:22 am to theronswanson
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If no one is bailing out the average worker whose 401ks have plummeted, why would we bail out these farmers.
We don't need foreign countries or international companies buying up American farmland. It's our most valuable resource and always will be.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:22 am to theronswanson
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The European Union has threatened to retaliate against soybean, beef, and poultry farmers in the bloc’s effort to target red states.
So just targeting states now?
Explain this to me. If tariffs so bad who is going to bail out Europe and China?
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:24 am to Tarps99
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Where can I find a chicken tree? Didn’t know chicken was grown unless you count the lab made Beyond Meat Ch’ken products.
Remember that time you were a baby.....then you grew bigger?
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:25 am to AUCom96
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Our food supply is a strength few nations have, so I don't have a major problem with aid going in that direction
Why are subsidizing their losses but privatizing their profit? If the government is bailing them out and our tax dollars are keeping them afloat, then their food products need to be substantially cheaper or essentially free.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:26 am to theronswanson
Last time I checked the Chinese had taken over the pig farms and the Indians had cornered the chicken industry?
WHO are we bailing out again? (Pun)
WHO are we bailing out again? (Pun)
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:36 am to theronswanson
agricultural exports
Don't these product have to grow, be harvested then shipped ?
How the fook is all that happening in five days
Don't these product have to grow, be harvested then shipped ?
How the fook is all that happening in five days
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:38 am to AUCom96
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Our food supply is a strength few nations have, so I don't have a major problem with aid going in that direction as opposed to proxy wars, corporate welfare, foreign aid and subsidizing inner city crime. Cut the others, then get to the farming question.
Sounds very socialized.
Its your corporate farms making bank off of these subsidies. Your little 40 acre farmer isnt doing so well.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Your little 40 acre farmer isnt doing so well.
There’s no 40 acre farmers left on the grain side. From a national security standpoint, grain production needs to be protected. As I stated above, US corn, wheat and rice prices are up despite the everything else dropping.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:46 am to TigerBalsagna
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Remember that time you were a baby.....then you grew bigger?
It was a grammar joke. “Grown” in the original sentence with a list of plants could imply to the reader of a resource that is grown from plants. I think the proper term is ”raised.”
You raise cattle and chickens. You don’t “grow” them.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:48 am to loogaroo
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There’s no 40 acre farmers left on the grain side
Truck farmers.
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