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How will tariffs affect overseas travel this summer?
Posted on 3/4/25 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 3/4/25 at 2:29 pm
Or will these changes affect us at all?
Posted on 3/4/25 at 2:37 pm to chuckie
Why would they affect overseas travel and to where? Be more specific.
And please, try to keep politics off of the travel board. It's one of the last bastions of safety on this site.
And please, try to keep politics off of the travel board. It's one of the last bastions of safety on this site.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 7:57 am to chuckie
United doesn't get taxed on what fuel they have left in the tank when they land in Toronto, and filling up in Toronto on the way back to the US is not "exporting" fuel, or buying more bloody mary mix from a Canadian vendor, etc.
I won't ask where you even came up with this being an issue for travel, because it will 100% end up political, I'm guessing.
I won't ask where you even came up with this being an issue for travel, because it will 100% end up political, I'm guessing.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 8:15 am to chuckie
While I concur this forum is one of the last bastions of dialogue without politics or derisive comments, I do wonder what foreign travel will be like for Americans in 2025 given an upcoming cruise we have starting in Norway and ending up in Iceland. So, I'm going to share my thoughts and will try to delve into the topic without political bias because it is, or will be, a thought some Americans are likely to have. I think it's a topic that can be discussed without taking sides, and it is broader than just tariffs. If it devolves, perfectly fine with the thread being deleted. I've always appreciated being able to post on TigerDroppings as a "feriner"!
I wonder sometimes about how Americans in general are going to be treated abroad in the coming months. It's usually never been an issue; you have some joking comments or inquiries about our system of government and issues they'll hear about in the news but usually I've attributed that to basic curiosity about American life in general. I will say in general every country you visit has their political challenges. If you spend some time studying politics in countries like the UK, France or Italy right now, you'd find a high degree of uncertainty as well. I always made it a point to learn about what's going on in the countries I'm visiting and if those kinds of questions or innuendos come, I can usually just kind of shake my head, "say yeah, we're going through some challenges right now" and then ask them about...Usually, it works as no one really wants to go there and it's ultimately about having fun, learning new cultures and getting to know people from different walks of life!
I've always felt like I'm an ambassador for our country because I've been in many situations where I was one of the few Americans a person might have met in certain regions I've visited where not a lot of Americans visit. I've felt that how they see me act and conduct myself can influence their opinions of our country. At the end of the day, the vast majority of us around the world are trying to survive and get by day by day. We want to enjoy our lives while we can and avoid things that produce negative feelings.


I wonder sometimes about how Americans in general are going to be treated abroad in the coming months. It's usually never been an issue; you have some joking comments or inquiries about our system of government and issues they'll hear about in the news but usually I've attributed that to basic curiosity about American life in general. I will say in general every country you visit has their political challenges. If you spend some time studying politics in countries like the UK, France or Italy right now, you'd find a high degree of uncertainty as well. I always made it a point to learn about what's going on in the countries I'm visiting and if those kinds of questions or innuendos come, I can usually just kind of shake my head, "say yeah, we're going through some challenges right now" and then ask them about...Usually, it works as no one really wants to go there and it's ultimately about having fun, learning new cultures and getting to know people from different walks of life!
I've always felt like I'm an ambassador for our country because I've been in many situations where I was one of the few Americans a person might have met in certain regions I've visited where not a lot of Americans visit. I've felt that how they see me act and conduct myself can influence their opinions of our country. At the end of the day, the vast majority of us around the world are trying to survive and get by day by day. We want to enjoy our lives while we can and avoid things that produce negative feelings.

Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:00 am to Nole Man
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While I concur this forum is one of the last bastions of dialogue without politics or derisive comments, I do wonder what foreign travel will be like for Americans in 2025 given an upcoming cruise we have starting in Norway and ending up in Iceland.
If you spent any time traveling post-9/11 during the Bush administration, it's likely to be roughly like that. People obviously won't be giving you any deference as an American, and they might lightly mock you for "electing an idiot", but it will be few and far between with most people not giving a shite. Though with that said, I think it was more jarring for people back then, as Americans were used to be treated with deference when they traveled abroad. Losing that deference likely stung more than any actual negativity. Where in 2025, most Americans don't really remember what it was like to travel abroad as an American before 9/11, so it really shouldn't be that much of a shift unless you actively go looking for a fight.
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 11:04 am
Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:56 pm to Joshjrn
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so it really shouldn't be that much of a shift unless you actively go looking for a fight
It'll just turn into yet another excuse to do the typical OT circuit of travel (Cancun, 30A, Disney, etc.) with the family that doesn't involve anything new for the next five years.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 1:03 pm to LemmyLives
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It'll just turn into yet another excuse to do the typical OT circuit of travel (Cancun, 30A, Disney, etc.) with the family that doesn't involve anything new for the next five years.
Yup. Always throws me when people claim how rudely everyone treats them when they travel abroad, because I've traveled extensively for over two decades and can count on one hand the number of people who were rude to me.
Brings to mind the old chestnut of meeting an a-hole in the morning or meeting assholes all day

Posted on 3/5/25 at 1:58 pm to chuckie
The tourism industry lost a lot of money during Covid and compounding the problem with record inflation has made the recovery bumpy. I don't think they can afford to be jingoistic towards travelers. Sure there will be some volatility in commodity markets, but I don't see how that would impact tourism.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 1:59 pm to Joshjrn
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because I've traveled extensively for over two decades and can count on one hand the number of people who were rude to me.
Only once. A taxi driver in Barcelona that told me "you're in Spain, speak Spanish".

Posted on 3/5/25 at 2:13 pm to VABuckeye
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Only once. A taxi driver in Barcelona that told me "you're in Spain, speak Spanish".
Should have responded "chinga tu madre, cabron". He'd have loved that

ETA: But obviously say it with a lisp, because you were in Barthelona.
This post was edited on 3/5/25 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 3/5/25 at 2:56 pm to Joshjrn
LOL. Funny thing is my wife was in the backseat and she is fluent in Spanish (Cuban).
Posted on 3/5/25 at 3:04 pm to Joshjrn
Well thought out.
Never looked at all for "deference as an American". I've been in 35 countries, and I feel like they're the ones that deserve "deference" because I'm in their country.
I've had a few encounters over the years. Nothing major you couldn't walk away from (i.e. a pack of drunk Brits on a "Stag Do" saying F (current President) when they heard our accents or a cab driver in the Czech Republic at the airport innocently saying, "How about that (current President)" when half our party likes him and the other half despises him. (Kind of like me asking "how about that Brexit or Boris Johnson or Emmanuel Macron!" Sure to get a rise or beat up!
)
As noted, I try to take some humor in the situation and divert the questions. 9/10 they're just trying to strike up conversation. In some cases, they rarely interact with Americans, and I've found they're just curious to ask about what all they've been seeing in the news.
Never looked at all for "deference as an American". I've been in 35 countries, and I feel like they're the ones that deserve "deference" because I'm in their country.
I've had a few encounters over the years. Nothing major you couldn't walk away from (i.e. a pack of drunk Brits on a "Stag Do" saying F (current President) when they heard our accents or a cab driver in the Czech Republic at the airport innocently saying, "How about that (current President)" when half our party likes him and the other half despises him. (Kind of like me asking "how about that Brexit or Boris Johnson or Emmanuel Macron!" Sure to get a rise or beat up!

As noted, I try to take some humor in the situation and divert the questions. 9/10 they're just trying to strike up conversation. In some cases, they rarely interact with Americans, and I've found they're just curious to ask about what all they've been seeing in the news.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 3:14 pm to Nole Man
If you don't lead with American politics in conversations or wear maga or other politically themed clothing head-to-toe you should be fine.
Posted on 3/5/25 at 6:41 pm to chuckie
Please don’t post dumb troll threads here.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 4:04 am to chuckie
To go back to the OP's question, tariffs reduce international trade. That's part of the point of them -- to favor domestic industries at the expense of international ones.
As such, demand for international business travel may decline. In the short term, that might lead to lower airfares. Of course, that would initially be expected on routes with more business than leisure travel (e.g. flights to Milan would be more impacted than flights to Rome).
What I just wrote is highly speculative, but it is the logical conclusion. And, of course, a lot depends on which countries are facing tariffs. Obviously, my above opinion is based on tariffs with the EU.
As such, demand for international business travel may decline. In the short term, that might lead to lower airfares. Of course, that would initially be expected on routes with more business than leisure travel (e.g. flights to Milan would be more impacted than flights to Rome).
What I just wrote is highly speculative, but it is the logical conclusion. And, of course, a lot depends on which countries are facing tariffs. Obviously, my above opinion is based on tariffs with the EU.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:17 am to NOLALGD
Since the Queen died most Brits want to talk about how much they dislike King Charles.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:37 am to Joshjrn
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can count on one hand the number of people who were rude to me.
The old lady working in a convenience store in Wroclaw, Poland for me. I tried to say thank you in Polish, and I got a "why did you even try" sneer. That's about it. I don't count people stalking you for robbing purposes, because they'll rob anyone in South Africa, not just 'Mericans.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:41 pm to VABuckeye
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This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:45 pm to GOP_Tiger
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And, of course, a lot depends on which countries are facing tariffs. Obviously, my above opinion is based on tariffs with the EU.
Another angle: if there is a US/China trade war, you may see affects on big euro cities later in 2025/2026 if large Chinese tour groups begin to taper due to their domestic issues. I doubt there would be any impact for near term summer travel though, and a trade war would have to actually begin and be accompanied by press/a feeling that it's duration would be meaningful for the Chinese traveling class.
Less lines for popular attractions and less iPads used as cameras?
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 12:46 pm
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