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Posted on 12/28/24 at 5:41 pm
Posted by Shotgun Willie
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 5:41 pm
This was my grandfather’s watch that I recently received. It doesn’t seem to work, is there someplace I should send it to get cleaned/fixed? Or just take to a local jeweler? Live in KC. Don’t think the band is original but not sure.

Breitling Premier
Says 18k .750
607068 777 on back of it

Any info appreciated








Posted by tiger rag 93
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 5:42 pm to
Paging Obtuse

I live in Prairie Village, send it to me and I’ll get it sorted out for you.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 5:43 pm to
I’m sure Obtuse will have better info but if you need any real restoration work, especially in the bracelet, there’s no one better than Michael Young at Classic Watch Repair.
Posted by HillabeeBaw
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 5:46 pm to
Groovy watch.

I'd say its worth 8-10k easily
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 5:51 pm
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 5:47 pm to
Posted by DomincDecoco
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 5:48 pm to
I’d insert a joke about giving you 350 for it, but I’m about to die in some joy reid level nasty weather
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:48 pm to
I'm a Breitling guy. If you send that watch to Breitling USA they can possibly fix it and service it. If not they will send it to Grenchen. And it's worth a bit but not rolex type money. Not close. I would guess 2 to 3 grand. The service will be around 1k.

The band isn't original. It's a cheap Speidel band. It is a 18k gold case though.

Dumb question........ do you know how a manual wind watch works?
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 6:54 pm
Posted by Shotgun Willie
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:55 pm to
Thanks. I won’t sell it since it was my grandfather’s but would like to get it working so I could wear it, probably get replacement band similar to original.
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:57 pm to
This watch looks absolutely superb on a quality strap. It's worth servicing and wearing

Do you know to turn the big dial forward 20 times to see if it's running?
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:09 pm to
Just fyi your watch doesn't come up on their service quote site because of its age. Call this number Monday: 203-456-2458
Posted by Dragula
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:10 pm to
It's a '40's era Breitling reference # 777, which would have a Venus 175 movement if memory serves me correctly.
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:11 pm to
That's correct. It's a good movement
Posted by Shotgun Willie
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

Do you know to turn the big dial forward 20 times to see if it's running?


It will turn the hands if center part is pulled out. When pushed in I can turn towards me, but not away. It doesn’t seem to run after turning
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:15 pm to
If you can't turn it away from you it needs servicing. The fact that hands work and you can turn 1 direction bodes well for you. Expect your watch to be gone for 4 to 6 months
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 7:17 pm
Posted by Broke
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:19 pm to
I think your main spring is broken and it's an easy fix
Posted by Shotgun Willie
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:21 pm to
Thanks for info guys. Would you suggest sending to Breitling considering the age?
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

Would you suggest sending to Breitling considering the age?


That's why I want you to call the Breitling service center. The movement isn't proprietary by any means but Breitling can source a new dial and hands. If you want that done. On yours I would get new hands and keep the dial. There are other service centers who specialize in vintage so a discussion with Breitling USA would be beneficial

The hands are press on so they'll get changed anyway
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 7:26 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:37 pm to
That is a Triple 7. They were made from the 40s up into at least the 60s. It is a very nice watch and Breitling was one of the premier chronograph makers of the time, right up there with Patek and while collectible it is not worth near vintage Patek money mainly because the manufacturers went two different directions.

One thing about it is at ~37mm it is a modern sized watch and doesn't look small on the wrist like some vintage watches do.

It has a Venus 75 movement, which is an excellent column wheel chronograph movement. As an aside the movement IP and machinery to make the Venus 75 was sold to the Chinese manufacture Tiangin (later renamed Seagull in the 70's) in the early 60s and was used in their 1963 Pilot's Chronograph. It is the most famous Chinese watch, at least outside China. Seagull still makes their version today: ST1901 and still makes copies of the 1963.

Not being a Breitling guy I will defer to Broke as to where to send it for service. I would have the case LIGHTLY polished by someone sympathetic to vintage gold cases. I would want to bring back the luster of the gold but no taket away the wabi-sabi (wear) that your GF put on it. This is something to discuss with the watchmaker and make your desires crystal clear.

I would take it off the Twist-o-Flex bracelet because it is out of place unless you just want to keep it for nostalgia. I would dress it down and put it on a simple light to medium brown calf or Horween strap or if you want to dress it up a medium brown or black croc strap.


That is an excellent watch and an incredible heirloom. Out of the dozens of similar posts I see on watch forums each year maybe 1 out of 50 is a watch that actually makes financial sense to service, lightly restore, keep, and above all wear.


Also as Broke mentioned it is a manual wind movement so it has to be wound to run.

That gold case and lightly patinaed dial are going to look incredible when you get it serviced. I'm jealous.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:42 pm to
My FIL left us a Patek which I’m pretty sure is from the1950s. I’ll post a pic in this thread or make a thread as I would like input from you and broke on the watch.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

My FIL left us a Patek which I’m pretty sure is from the1950s.


I am manifesting it to be a 1463. The Tasti Tondi is my favorite PP of the era.
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