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Curious, why the “awe man” mentality when players leave LSU Baseball?

Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:02 pm
Posted by Sarge
whodatmofo
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:02 pm
Who cares. There is no more loyalty in this college game. It’s about money. Will lose zero sleep, nor worry about Neal, Moffet, Kling, Dutton or anyone who hits the transfer portal. If they are in that portal, then Jay either told them the deal to cut dead weight, they don’t like it here, or the players know they don’t have what it takes to earn the P&G. You develop, or you pack your bags. Just glad we saw Freshman step up this year ahead of veteran guys. Let em leave. Who cares. We are in this to win championships, not be a loyal mediocre ball club. Next Man Up. Tiger Bait.
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 8:40 pm
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81951 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:04 pm to
That may be true if development werent a thing
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:04 pm to
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There is no more loyalty in this college game. It’s about money.

Welcome to real life.
Posted by Bongo
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:13 pm to
You think it's about money or playing time?
Posted by Sarge
whodatmofo
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:16 pm to
Both, but if you suck, and haven’t made progress, why should you see the field at one of the cathedrals that is LSU baseball? Blows my mind how many fans are like “that sucks,” Why? Explain to me why? We don’t see the athletes practice, improve, etc until they take the mound, the plate or the field. And if they are still making mistakes, the same mistakes as the year before, then send them on their way. And the folks in the portal have had plenty of chances minus 2. It’s 1000% better for the program.
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 6:11 am
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:18 pm to
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If they are in that portal, then Jay either told them the deal to cut dead weight, or the players know they don’t have what it takes to earn the P&G.


You don’t know if Jay told them to leave. Two of those guys landed on SEC teams and we may face them next year. Jay was publicly lobbying for Neal to stay praising him after the season.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:23 pm to
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Who cares.
Too many people to list?
Posted by Sarge
whodatmofo
Member since Dec 2008
14163 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:24 pm to
Not saying that’s what happened. Most guys in the portal are told during exit meetings what their future is like at LSU. You think Jay isn’t telling them they may have to go somewhere else? Neal can gladly go. Will miss his bat, but not him behind the plate. We have guys coming in who can replace him no problem. In regards to Neal, “wanted a fresh start?” Why? He played catcher, outfield and DHed lol. He was way behind Milazzo catching. And if he loved playing for Jay, he wouldn’t have left. Next man up. Tiger Bait.

ETA: hope we face the transfers and rock em. College ball is now the minor leagues.
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 8:26 pm
Posted by birddog14
DFW Texas
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:29 pm to
you say you don't care, but you took the time to create a thread about it
Posted by Sarge
whodatmofo
Member since Dec 2008
14163 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 8:30 pm to
That comments played out. Just like on FB. Way to contribute and offer jack shite

Posted by Jack Daniel
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:02 pm to
So we celebrate the recruiting classes as being full of great players but if they leave say, “oh well they suck anyway”?

That’s ranter 101
Posted by Sarge
whodatmofo
Member since Dec 2008
14163 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:04 pm to
If they suck, don’t improve or want to leave, you celebrate them wanting to stay or keeping em on also? Thats “ranter” stupidity
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 9:04 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
78966 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:14 pm to
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It’s about money.


Hate to break it to you champ, it's been about this long before NIL.

College athletics is nothing more than an audition for a job. I have no problem with players making decisions based on what they think will give them the best opportunity to have a pro career.

I promise you that the overwhelming majority of players outside of Louisiana in the 80's and 90's weren't coming to play sports at LSU because they had some strong connection to the school.
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
6794 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:15 pm to
BACK TO LIFE
BACK TO REALITY
However do want me, however do you need me!! Soul II Soul
Posted by Sarge
whodatmofo
Member since Dec 2008
14163 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:16 pm to
Oh I know. The portal and NIL screwed all college sports. But no one has answered my question in this whole thread. Why the “awe man” mentality? Seriously. Explain that.
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 9:18 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
78966 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:19 pm to
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The portal and NIL screwed all college sports


No it didn't.

Like I said, your premise of it leading to "no loyalty" is just not true.
Posted by mdtiger1
Great Northwest Louisiana
Member since Jan 2005
1435 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:19 pm to
Kling wanted to leave last yer. JJ talked him in to staying
Posted by Mobiletiggah
Mobile Alabama
Member since Mar 2021
3876 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:26 pm to
Experience, and……..oh yeah, experience. In the process, the focus, and priorities of a team. It’s one of the value items that has to be earned.

When an experienced player leaves, it’s a loss. You can replace the player with a better one but not the experience.
Posted by Sarge
whodatmofo
Member since Dec 2008
14163 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:27 pm to
Agree to Disagree. NIL and the portal ruined college athletics when it gave players the ability to commit, then pop smoke when they didn’t earn a starting spot, or they didn’t put in the work needed, or turn out to be what was expected. Literally, loyalty means committing and staying through highs and lows. Working hard. And yes, if a player comes here, and does well, then they stay. If the HC leaves, well, that’s something they adjust to. Part of Athletics. If a player leaves nowadays, then it’s the next man up. So again, why the awe man mentality lol?
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 9:30 pm
Posted by Sarge
whodatmofo
Member since Dec 2008
14163 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:29 pm to
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Experience, and……..oh yeah, experience. In the process, the focus, and priorities of a team. It’s one of the value items that has to be earned. When an experienced player leaves, it’s a loss. You can replace the player with a better one but not the experience.


Thank you. The first one. But when we lose “experienced” players, and then pick up experienced players from other teams, we don’t lose anything. So far, the dudes we’ve picked up have experience. That’s why I say “next man up.”
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