re: Elon Musk is a grifter

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to be fair, there was a general disgust at the government subsidies for electric cars in general and it wasn't aimed strictly at elon;

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I am not going to dance around it and simply say your memory of those threads is incorrect. The vast majority of the time, almost to exclusivity, the mention of EV subsidies arose in threads discussing Tesla/Elon and it was actually the EV pumpers that would point out Tesla's subsidies had run out and it was the other manufacturers of EVs that were still collecting them. Subsidies were absolutely used as a sword against Elon and Tesla with very little discussion of other manufacturers except by the Tesla and Elon acolytes.