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'Seven Pounds'...SPOILER ALERT

Posted on 12/21/08 at 5:43 pm
Posted by LSUGoose
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Posted on 12/21/08 at 5:43 pm
Good flick!! Nice how all of the parts come together. Don't read if you haven't seen it or don't want to know about plot:

1) Does title pertain only to seven deaths to be avenged or possibly the human heart weighing seven lbs?

2) One character who gets a phone call near the end does not receive a "gift". Is that an attorney who "took care" of things at the end? That one kind of left me hanging.
This post was edited on 12/22/08 at 6:40 pm
Posted by GeauxLSUSam
NLU Indians
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Posted on 12/21/08 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

) Does title pertain only to seven deaths to be avenged or possibly the human heart weighing seven lbs?


I was thinking probably the weight of the heart.

quote:

2) One character who gets a phone call near the end does not receive a "gift". Is that an attorney who "took care" of things at the end? That one kind of left me hanging.



Wasn't that his friend who knew what he was going to do?
Posted by geaux4tigers
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2006
970 posts
Posted on 12/21/08 at 7:22 pm to
The average weight of a human heart is about 300 grams which is about a half pound, so I'm pretty sure the title isn't referencing that. The guy at the end is his friend who he was talking to throughout the movie that knew what the plan was and arranged for the heart to go to whoever he picked.
Posted by tubucoco
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Posted on 12/21/08 at 8:48 pm to
so it's a movie with heart, I know bad joke.
Posted by LSUGoose
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Posted on 12/21/08 at 9:03 pm to
Makes sense with the title NOT referencing the weight of the heart. I think 2003 movie "21 grams" referenced the weight of the heart, but most thought it was a drug reference.

Thanks for the info - it's one of those movies that I'd like to see twice to catch all the subtle things that happened before I figured out the storyline.
Posted by ella
The frozen south
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/21/08 at 9:04 pm to
Just got back from seeing it, soooooo depressing, but hopefully it makes people consider and talk about becoming an organ donor, make sure you tell your family your wishes.

That dude was his best friend since he was 14, my boyf said he was a doctor, and he was the one who gave him the list of people that needed organs at the beginning "you didnt get this from me" or whatever at the bottom of the list of names.

I have been wondering about the title, could it be that the total weight of all the gifts was 7 lbs? Eyes, bone marrow, kidney, 1/2 liver, heart, what am I missing? So he helped 5 people, 7 was how many died in the accident...
Posted by GeauxLSUSam
NLU Indians
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/21/08 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

but hopefully it makes people consider and talk about becoming an organ donor, make sure you tell your family your wishes.


This is so important. My dad had a heart transplant at the age of 73 and he will be 77 in 2 more months. God Bless organ donors
Posted by parrotdr
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Member since Oct 2003
7724 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 5:27 am to
Creditors who insist on having their “pound of flesh” are those who cruelly demand the repayment of a debt, no matter how much suffering it will cost the debtor: “The bank will have its pound of flesh; it is going to foreclose on our mortgage and force us to sell our home.” The expression is from The Merchant of Venice, by William Shakespeare.

Seven people/seven pounds...or something like that.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 12/22/08 at 9:38 am to
i thought there was a phraze "7 pounds of penance" or something like that. thats all i thought the whole movie. could definately be wrong.

quote:

I think 2003 movie "21 grams" referenced the weight of the heart


i thought they made it clear in that movie that when a person dies the body immediatley loses 21 grams of weight. and claimed it was the soul.

either way, i thought seven pounds was a pretty good movie. really slow and depressing but i love a movie that can make a person feel some sort of emotion.
This post was edited on 12/22/08 at 9:40 am
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 12/22/08 at 9:41 am to
Really good story but really fricking depressing...
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26822 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

Really good story but really fricking depressing...
Yes...not what I expected. Should have read up on it first. Was deciding between Seven Pounds and Yes Man, and went with Seven Pounds because were we at the theater early and Seven Pounds started 10 minutes earlier than Yes Man.

I thought it was pretty slow, but definitely makes you think.
Posted by Holdatigah
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Member since Jul 2007
454 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 1:03 am to
quote:

That dude was his best friend since he was 14, my boyf said he was a doctor, and he was the one who gave him the list of people that needed organs at the beginning "you didnt get this from me" or whatever at the bottom of the list of names.


I believe Barry Pepper was his lawyer and executed the deal after Will Smith died. The list came from his brother, the actual IRS agent, who let him pose as an IRS agent so that he could carry out his plan. He was upset with Will Smith at the end because they had lost contact and he thought Will Smith was straying outside of the plan.

At least I'm pretty sure...
Posted by LSUROCKS52
Rest in Peace
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/23/08 at 10:08 am to
his brother did not let him pose as an IRS agent, thats why his brother was upset at will at the end of the movie. and must have also been the "thing he took from" the brothers house when he went to visit.
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 12/24/08 at 10:43 am to
quote:

2) One character who gets a phone call near the end does not receive a "gift". Is that an attorney who "took care" of things at the end? That one kind of left me hanging.


Did you even watch the movie? if so, how could you ask this? It was his best friend.

This movie sucked. Will Smith overacted.

The director had to keep the audience confused in order to keep our attentions.

good idea to give oneself like that but horible movie.
Posted by BurntTigerFan
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Posted on 12/24/08 at 11:55 am to
guess Ill pop it in and watch it tonight.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25005 posts
Posted on 12/24/08 at 4:02 pm to
So LeonPhelps - please give me a short list of at least five "good" movies that I should watch. You must be a chip off the old Roger Ebert block.
Posted by Holdatigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2007
454 posts
Posted on 12/25/08 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

his brother did not let him pose as an IRS agent, thats why his brother was upset at will at the end of the movie. and must have also been the "thing he took from" the brothers house when he went to visit.

Wrong, his brother did let him pose as the IRS agent. He gave his brother a lung when he contracted lung cancer, and as part of the deal he allowed Will Smith to pose as an IRS agent in order to find six other lives to save in order to fulfill the rest of the agreement.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 12/25/08 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

have been wondering about the title, could it be that the total weight of all the gifts was 7 lbs? Eyes, bone marrow, kidney, 1/2 liver, heart, what am I missing? So he helped 5 people, 7 was how many died in the accident...


the title refers to the saying "a pound of flesh" from one of shakespeare's plays. it's a metaphor for having to repay a debt, the movie just makes it become literal. he gives his seven pounds of flesh to seven people in order to repay what he feels is his debt for taking seven lives
This post was edited on 12/25/08 at 2:56 pm
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22310 posts
Posted on 1/1/09 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

Wrong, his brother did let him pose as the IRS agent. He gave his brother a lung when he contracted lung cancer, and as part of the deal he allowed Will Smith to pose as an IRS agent in order to find six other lives to save in order to fulfill the rest of the agreement.


This is completely incorrect.

I mean, terribly wrong.

Probably wouldn't call you out on it, but you were "correcting" someone else who had it right; thats worth at least 10 douche points.
Posted by MontessoriMom
USA
Member since Feb 2009
1 post
Posted on 2/15/09 at 12:42 am to
"Pound of Flesh" - Meaning
Something which is owed that is ruthlessly required to be paid back.

Origin
This expression derives from Shakespeare's Merchant of Venice, 1596. The insistence by Shylock of the payment of Antonio's flesh is the central plot device of the play:

SHYLOCK:
"The pound of flesh which I demand of him Is deerely bought, 'tis mine, and I will haue it."

The figurative use of the phrase to refer to any lawful but nevertheless unreasonable recompense dates to the late 18th century.

7 pounds = 7 lives lost in the auto accident, including the main charater's fiance. Will Smith's character is making restitution for the seven lives he has taken.

Hope this helps! :-)
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