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re: Florida deputy fatally shot US airman that answered the door with a gun
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:10 am to Funky Tide 8
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:10 am to Funky Tide 8
Not arguing right or wrong about this situation, just clarifying this as it’s training. Also not reading the entire thread to see if it’s been mentioned, but anyone with a military background that wasn’t a POG, or anyone that has a police background will tell you that doorway is a fatal funnel. There are quite a few videos on YT of cops getting shot at and/or shot knocking on a door. Knock and move to the side.
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especially after sketchily banging on the door then hiding around the corner out of sight of the peephole.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:03 am to FredbullTN
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or anyone that has a police background will tell you that doorway is a fatal funnel.
That 1 person funnel
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:24 am to FredbullTN
This is the problem with to many local PDs. They all want to be special forces guys who think they are gonna kick down some doors and gun battle with the bad guy and save the day and go tell all their buddies about how they could be “operators”.
Stop treating citizens like they are potential terrorists in a cave in some sand box across the world and just knock on the damn door like a human being and figure out what the frick is going on.
You go into every conflict with the expectation of violence and you’re just setting up a situation where you are more likely to find it
Stop treating citizens like they are potential terrorists in a cave in some sand box across the world and just knock on the damn door like a human being and figure out what the frick is going on.
You go into every conflict with the expectation of violence and you’re just setting up a situation where you are more likely to find it
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:31 am to FredbullTN
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Also not reading the entire thread to see if it’s been mentioned, but anyone with a military background that wasn’t a POG, or anyone that has a police background will tell you that doorway is a fatal funnel.
You don't need to be a meat-eating door kicker to know why he moved out of the doorway but doing so along with not identifying as police prevents the person from inside having any idea who is banging on the other side of the door.
I admit the police have a conundrum in that tactics designed to increase their safety also decrease the public's ability to quickly and accurately identify them. The significant increase in citizens exercising their 2A rights both at home and in public produces a significant increase in police encountering weapons. If police continue to set SOP in a way that their operations are increasingly mimicking MOUT missions we are going to continue to see this sort of outcome. This is going to continue to erode the public's confidence in the police. I know quite a few people who not long ago were solidly in the Back the Blue camp and are now leaning more toward playing NWA in their mental soundtrack.
For years the tactical trajectory of police SOP has made it less safe for law-abiding citizens in interactions with the police unless moderated it will result in a major pushback.
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