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re: Florida deputy fatally shot US airman that answered the door with a gun

Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:11 pm to
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:11 pm to
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Reading comprehension. No warrant. No 4th Amendment issue. They responded to a call and knocked on the guys door. He answered with a gun in hand.


So I got massively downvoted on page one by all the "police kicked in the wrong door for no reason and murdered this guy" people. Turns out this was a Karen initiated situation in which they were called to a specific apartment. Knocked on the door and loudly announced their presence. Guy acknowledges its the police as heard verbally on the body cam. He then answers the door holding a gun and the officer shoots him WITHOUT entering the apartment (zero 4th Amendment issue there).

Someone is going to raise some kind of argument that its a 4th violation because of the Use of Force but we all know that isn't what they meant on page one.

You want to argue whether the officer was quick on the trigger or not? Go ahead. It's a valid argument. I think going the racial route is going to be Crump's angle though (duh) and that's a weak play.
Posted by TigersnJeeps
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:19 pm to
The racial angle is Crump's MO.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:21 pm to
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You want to argue whether the officer was quick on the trigger or not? Go ahead. It's a valid argument.


At the 3:40-ish mark, it sounds like someone inside the apartment also says something about the police loud enough to be heard in the hallway.

You pretty much have to be a dumbass these days to answer the door with a gun in hand if the police are actively knocking on your door (and per the video it was announced very clearly multiple times). Like you said, there could maybe be argument that he shot too quickly but the guy is right there in the doorway with the gun in his hand when he answers. It's not holstered or anything along those lines.

I generally don't side with the cops in a lot of these situations because it's usually their frick up. But in this case? I can't really say it's a bad shoot.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 4:24 pm
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