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re: Boy Scouts of America changing name to be more inclusive

Posted on 5/7/24 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by Dam Guide
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Posted on 5/7/24 at 1:11 pm to
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Because those girls want to do outdoor activities and there are not any in Girl Scouts.

Unfortunately, you cannot get mom’s to volunteer to go camping. They don’t want to be outside.

Unless you have at least 2 mom’s at every camp out - you can’t have any girls attend.

I see the dilemma and I feel bad for those rare girls who can’t participate in the activity they love (outdoors).

But the dumb part is to admit girls to Boy Scouts and destroy the organization so that no one can develop character and enjoy outdoor independence.

I hate it all. A great program ruined with an emotional response.


There are some GS groups that are very outdoors oriented. There are a lot of moms that really enjoy camping. I volunteer with some amazing moms getting out there in the outdoors and doing all the high adventure stuff with their kids in both the GS and BSA organizations.

The big problem is the competition for kids time with all the different activities out there. BSA saw the writing on the wall that they needed to adapt to keep the organization going. They don't have cookie sales where you don't really even need the kids anymore to keep the organization going like Girl Scouts. BSA chose to become a family organization where the entire family can be under one roof and so families don't have to be separated and make it harder for them to schedule all the activities.

The problem in America is this should have been one organization. In England the Girl Guides and Boy Scouts are the same organization and it was easy for them to setup one program and offer both. Here in the states, two organizations built the same program and will not work together. Hell GS sued BSA for using the word Scout and Scouting without the word Boy before it. They lost.
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 1:12 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/7/24 at 1:33 pm to
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There are some GS groups that are very outdoors oriented. There are a lot of moms that really enjoy camping. I volunteer with some amazing moms getting out there in the outdoors and doing all the high adventure stuff with their kids in both the GS and BSA organizations.


My sister was a girl scout, she got the gold award. My mom was a leader. They camped just as much as we did in the Boy Scouts. The Girl Scouts in NOLA used to have two camps, Camp Covington and Camp Whispering Pines, they would to to each at least twice a year, plus places like Land O Pines and other campgrounds. They went to summer camp each year.

Now, today:

1) My kids joined girl scouts a few years ago when they were younger. They did it for a year. Met every two weeks on Saturdays and did arts and crafts. Sold cookies. DId a couple of field trips like to the zoo. They never went camping once. My oldest found out about a girl scout summer camp that was focused on horseback riding and she wanted to do that, and our troop leader basically tried to discourage her. She went anways. At one point I suggested a family camping trip, and I was told by the troop leader, and I quote "this is not the cub scouts, we don't do things like that."

2) A friend of mine has a daughter who is a girl scout in MS. They had to cancel a troop camping trip (it would have been the first one) because they found out at the last minute that it was required that at least one leader take a bunch of food safety classes. Apparently, you can't just cook over an open flame anymore.
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