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re: How much of a joke is it that Star Wars was ever thought to be equal to Lord of the Rings?

Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:15 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:15 am to
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This doesn't make sense. The creative freedom is what led to 3 movies. All he had to do was follow the source material. Simple.


No that’s not what led to three movies. It was corporate greed that led to it. All of these studios all had rights to Tolkien’s world, and they wanted the Hobbit to be as long as possible to milk that cow dry.

Jackson openly said that there really isn’t enough material for three films. His target was two where initially the first film ended with them meeting Bard and the second film starts in Laketown. The Battle of Five Armies is nowhere near as rich as Helm’s Deep or the Battle of Pelennor Fields and probably should have been 20 minutes.

Additionally if you want to know why almost all the orcs and goblins are digital, it’s because Jackson didn’t have enough time to create the masks, weapons, and armor for them. Jackson would have absolutely delayed the film to get this if he could, but he was told no. Like in Lord of the Rings it took three days to make a suit of armor and chainmail with no overlap, and then you realize they had to make like 800 of them. They literally had over five million bits of chainmail and the people putting them together lost their fricking fingerprints. Nothing like this was done in the Hobbit because they weren’t given the time:


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Don't believe this, either. He was penned for this project a long time before filming. Once again, if he had time for three movies....

I don't want to hear about studio involvement. He had enough cache to either demand what he wanted or just walk away.


It’s extremely clear that you have no idea what the frick you’re talking about when it comes to these films. Initially Jackson wasn't associated with the project really much at all given he was in a lawsuit with New Line Cinema over earnings and New Line swore that Jackson would never direct another film for them again (ie: The Hobbit). So they brought in Guillermo Del Toro instead after his magnum opus Pan’s Labyrinth, but did allow Jackson to stay on as an executive producer and a consultant.

The writing for the Hobbit began in 2008 but Del Toro let the project in 2010. This was largely due to MGM (which officially had the rights to The Hobbit) not having the funding to get this done from their end. It wasn’t until October of 2010 that Jackson was finally brought on to direct the two films and they began shooting in March of the next year. That’s effectively six months of preparation Jackson had to do. As he put it:

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Because Guillermo del Toro had to leave and I jumped in and took over, we didn't wind the clock back a year and a half and give me a year and a half prep to design the movie, which was different to what he was doing. It was impossible, and as a result of it being impossible I just started shooting the movie with most of it not prepped at all. You're going on to a set and you're winging it, you've got these massively complicated scenes, no storyboards and you're making it up there and then on the spot."


Then nearly a year and a half later the studios announced that it was not going to be two films but three, and he had to shoot more bullshite action scenes a few months later to make the movie longer than it should have been.

So no, Peter Jackson pretty much had little to do with its failures. He openly admits to really focusing in on the scenes that he had to get right like the Unexpected Party, the cave trolls, Riddles in the Dark, the Mirkwood Spiders, Bilbo meeting Smaug, Smaug’s death, and Thorin’s death and winged the rest of it.

Peter had three and a half years of preproduction for Lord of the Rings, and had six months this time and everyone was working their dicks off during the actual filming to get as much out as they could. So no, it’s 100% the studios fault that it was not as good as it should have been. Here’s Jackson admitting to it: YouTube
Posted by LSUPERMAN
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 11:25 am to
You know, I actually was one of your proponents on bringing you back but

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It’s extremely clear that you have no idea what the frick you’re talking about when it comes to these films


You can go frick yourself with this shite. You are an angry little man who post a bunch of shite. frick, dude calm down and get laid.
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