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re: Pelicans are not expected to offer BI extension this offseason, moving in new direction
Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:53 am to shel311
Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:53 am to shel311
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2. Allen has more trade value than Herb. That's it, not much more to say. It's not terribly close either
I disagree. and i don't think it's close.
We have a top 5 defender in the league that shoots 40% from 3 and shoots 85% from the FT line in the clutch making $13M for the next 3 years.
What Herb does, is way more important than what Allen does. What Allen does is done by guys making less than half of what he does. I"m not trying to say Jarrett Allen isn't good. He's a good center. He also doesn't fit what we need next to Zion.
All y'all do is bitch about wanting to shoot more 3's. Inserting Jarrett Allen into the starting lineup will make it even more difficult to shoot more 3's, and will still give Zion the same exact problem he's had here for 5 fricking years with a clogged up lane where a 7 footer is always waiting for him.
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He does if it can improve the team. Again, that may be where folks or you may not like a deal, but the idea that a high level role player is untouchable is way too much here.
The problem is this doesn't improve our team, and that's why i'm staunchly against that trade.
I would absolutely include Herb and BI in a trade if it brought a guy back that made us better. Murray and Allen don't fit that criteria for me. Literally every team in the league would want and start Herb, except for the Celtics. Every other team would remove a current starter to start Herb.
Send BI and Herb out, i want Booker or Steph back.
I"m ok with BI going out for Murray, even though i think BI is the better player. I"m not ok with Herb going out for Allen. There are plenty of other options to get Allen, as well as other options to get someone that can do what he does.....OR WE COULD FIND A frickING CENTER THAT CAN SHOOT 3'S.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:23 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:And Jarrett Allen is a good defensive big who averaged 17 and 11 on 63% from the field with a 66% TS%, and is a 1x All Star.
We have a top 5 defender in the league that shoots 40% from 3
I'd guraantee if you polled non Pels and non Cavs fans or the Zach Lowes of the world, none would say Herb has more trade value than Allen.
quote:No, just no.
What Allen does is done by guys making less than half of what he does.
quote:Because the likelihood of getting a big who can hit a 3 and be a starter playing 28+ minutes is slim, but that doesn't mean you should just punt on the position and be shitty at it just because you can't get a big who can shoot the 3. I don't follow your logic here.
All y'all do is bitch about wanting to shoot more 3's. Inserting Jarrett Allen into the starting lineup will make it even more difficult to shoot more 3's
This goes back to the discussion we were having last week, every time we discuss a trade, and someone says they like it or would do it, that does not mean it's the top option and that poster's #1 favorite trade. It's just discussing that particular deal at the moment.
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